Vidal - new midi controller being developed

Frédéric L but the relative height

Yes, of course, since a straight object that does not bend, will only touch another surface at multiple points if both planes are parallel. That is the reason why keyboards have rubber domes above the sensors and the rubber is thicker (or higher) on the first sensor. Without that artificial "distortion" of the plane of the key, the key could only have one moment of activation of the pcb (either the key touches all pcb points at the same time, or touches the first point and it stops there never reaching the second; or maybe I am embarassing myself by failing in basic geometry reasoning... Not my first time).
We are basically in agreement and talking in circles. Let the vidal engineering team figure the calibration out (maybe they can compensate by having larger differences in the rubber domes...).

SouthPark I guess they will put the strip on the 88 keys . Good spot SouthPark

kawafanboi what's providing the counter force ?

is it spring loaded, or are those round things underneath next to their dome board magnets ?

Why the cynicism?

They’ve stated -very clearly- how great the action, yet you’re bent on an inquisition!

What if they’ve figured out a way to defy the laws of gravity? surely, we have no idea what kind of alien-tech the guys at Vidal Sassoon have at their disposal.

Shame on you all, for such cynicism!

Independently of what the end product is going to be like , the feature I like is the ability to access the action straight away as a feature . How many times do we see on forums , ´ I got a sticky key ‘ and as a response get ‘ consult a certified dealer to carry out the operation ) which is frankly disappointing. It seems like the brands want to make collateral business by making maintenance difficult for end users, not publishing service manuals etc… this doesn’t really exist in the acoustic world. Of course you need to know your stuff if you want to regulate or tune your piano , but it is accessible . In the DP world , it seems that end users are discouraged to open their instruments , even though many things can happen to the action and the keys because even if the sound is produced electronically , DP’s are still percussive from a key standpoint and will be subject to various issues at some stage . Is the philosophy ‘ bin it and buy another one ‘ the rule here similarly to swatch watches ? Sorry end of the week , rant time 😉

Pete14 haha …… true. It's possible that they used a-tech (alien tech) … worm-hole drive technology. It can really open up a can of worm-holes.

Jokes aside. Hopefully Vidal can send a 'sample' midi controller to us at PC for review and to keep. We will draw straws on who keeps it. Would be good publicity. And if they pay us enough, we'll have all good things to say about it!

Love that extra special touch on their midi controller finishing as well. Aka box joint.

CyberGene they’re just ignorant

There is definitely something in this. Even the location/placement of the pitch shift stick. I wouldn't put it there just 'above' the dial thing. I need to have a chat with whoever it was that decided to just plonk it there - without some practical thinking.

I would keep the pitch stick away from the power switch etc too.

Here's the mod.

I love how the idea of this.

If they can get the action to respond well and feel nice, I think it could be fantastic.

I know it’s a controller, but I see a lot of room for some speakers atop, so why not?

Is a controller with speakers an odd thing to ask for?

It’s not like I’m asking for internal sounds, but speakers would go a long way for me, for you see, I’m not a fan of dangling cables, stands, and satellite speakers hovering over the piano; I prefer my speakers grounded, so that I can feel the rumbling on the keys, even if this comes at a bit of a loss in terms of overall fidelity as compared to high-end monitors; which, by the way, can cost a bundle.

Pete14 Why the cynicism?

They’ve stated -very clearly- how great the action, yet you’re bent on an inquisition!

What if they’ve figured out a way to defy the laws of gravity? surely, we have no idea what kind of alien-tech the guys at Vidal Sassoon have at their disposal.

Shame on you all, for such cynicism!

for the sins of questioning a piano manufacturer of their antigrav technology,

i will never recover from this. 😗

I haven't been this excited since the AvantGrand came along. I'd prefer this without any panel on the left.

I haven't got the space for a hybrid, but if this works as promised it could be my keyboard for life. It's expensive, and there are other things I'd spend the money on first (if I had it), but my current digital will have to be replaced eventually.

Johnstaf but if this works as promised

What’s their promise? I haven’t seen any details whatsoever.

CyberGene What’s their promise? I haven’t seen any details whatsoever.

That it feels like a concert grand. We've heard that before of course. There hasn't been a development in digital actions in a long time, so it's exciting to see something new.

Unless I see how they designed the hammer weights leverage and how the hammers are linked to the keys, I’d be very skeptical. To me it seems like the same principle as in the existing digital piano actions in a very compact space which is worrying.

I'm with you, CG.

It sound like much hype and little substance.

CyberGene Unless I see how they designed the hammer weights leverage and how the hammers are linked to the keys, I’d be very skeptical. To me it seems like the same principle as in the existing digital piano actions in a very compact space which is worrying.

It's the promise of something new that excites me, but I'm still cautious. If it has realistic letoff simulation that's actually useful like on a grand, I'll seriously consider it. If it is just hype, I'll just move along. No harm done.

let's talk about the wood work, the quality looks good, but the artistry, somewhat pedantic/pedestrian.

it looks more like something dads make, not trying to diminish the important role of dad-gineering, but the geometry is not very beautiful/inspired.

perhaps the final version could use some curves and asymmetry. 🙃

I love the look of it. If the Victorians did minimalism it would be like this. 😃

kawafanboi

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