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The recent bans on PianoWorld

MacMacMac

Like CyberGene, I, too, am two-time banned.

I've been reading that heads-up thread on PW. Opinions are split on this affair. But I get a sense that many there are unhappy about the situation.

Regardless ... I prefer to forget about it. I'm enjoying this forum more than PW. So I'm here to stay, and there no more.


mmatthew

I'm glad to be here. I'm unhappy about the bans on PW because the explanation that the posts were off-topic and that a ban was warranted - isn't satisfactory enough for me. As a forum of adult members, I believe we can steer ourselves back on track as a community - which we have done on several threads (that Clavinova thread comes to mind.)

I'm also tired of the archaic architecture of PW - I'd prefer a contemporary solution like we have here.


MacMacMac

You said it!

mmatthew I'd prefer a contemporary solution like we have here.


MBiG

This is how it looks. Banned....😞😞😞


MBiG

πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‰πŸΊπŸΊπŸΊ


bSharpCyclist

mmatthew - Usable on a mobile phone! I create an account just to say that ;0


MacMacMac

MBiG This is how it looks. Banned....😞😞😞

There's no need for the sad faces.

I got the same message that you got.
Regarding the off-topic rules, it says If you feel as though you can't comply, don't bother coming back.
Well ... I don't feel that I can comply, so I won't be coming back.


CyberGene

bSharpCyclist Usable on a mobile phone! I create an account just to say that

Actually this has been my main motivation to start researching forum software because I've complained so much on PW. I chose this forum software exactly because it looks and feels so good one on mobile. But what is more, I installed an extension that would automatically follow the day/night mode of my iPhone and Mac and would automatically switch between the light and dark theme. I'm so happy with Flarum!


Deleted

MBiG Are you even able to read the rules while banned?


David B

That seems condescending and spiteful.

It's how some parents (not me) might talk to a misbehaving child. It's not professional or courteous at all. Two qualities that should be present in this context when dealing with adults. SMH.

God bless,
David


Tyr

MBiG

The king has spoken and the unworthy have to kneel. It is crazy how detached the moderation is.

/spit


CyberGene

In all fairness, I believe this is a template because my ban for off topic from a year ago had the same wording if I remember correctly.


MacMacMac

David B That seems condescending and spiteful.

That was exactly my reaction.

I think the bans are discussed amongst all the mods and the owner. But I think this condescending tone is coming specifically from Ken Knapp. He's one of the mods, and also (apparently) the site nanny.

As for not being able to read the rules when banned ... I think you cannot. But it's too late now for me to try. I've deleted the cookies so I can only go there in public mode (not logged in).

But that brings to mind a funny situation from work in the late 1990s. The email system went down, which creates quite a hubbub in the corporate world. Anyway ... the support team create a notification about the outage, and sent it to everyone ... VIA EMAIL ! πŸ™‚


MBiG

@ dear PC members
Although I am not a native speaker, I had the same impression when reading. Something very arrogant and not with appreciation. It may be that this is the standard text or the standard page, which one holds at the temporary ban.

@Deleted
But the best is yet to come. I want to devote myself to self-study of PW's forum rules again in the next few weeks to become a better person. Unfortunately, the link on this page doesn't work for me and frankly I'm too convenient to search for the rules elsewhere. Well, it's not easy in life.....

MacMacMac
I will continue to honor PW in the future only as a reading member. (The experts are almost all here anyway πŸ™‚ )


mmatthew

When I saw CG's post on PW, I pulled out today immediately.

This morning, I sensed (what I feel is) support for the mods action - which was to ban members stating off-topic as a reason.

The reason is lame. A public post, on the same thread, from the mods would have been enough - I have seen that approach in some other forums I am part of. Just a post warning members or gently reminding them, would have sufficed. I will admit that I don't know if the banned members were warned (via PMs) or not.


MacMacMac

No warning. Just ... shazzam ... that ban-screen appeared.


TomLC

I've never been a fan of the "woke" culture. The mods want PW to be a safe space. That drives me crazy. Tell that to your Drill Sargent in the MC. He'll show you a safe space - stuffed in a foot locker.


vagfilm

And why do you bring "woke" culture to this discussion of a stupid enforcement of a doubtful rule… Can we just for one minute leave aside our prejudices? Did you also not ban PW by coming here? Does that awaken you? Do all stupid decisions in the world belong to "woke" people? I certainly consider myself closer to the "woke" than to the whatever-the-name (non-woke? Sleepy?).

Why do we have to label every decision maker into being home team or adversary? It was a stupid arrogant decision… End of story, move on, the guy had a bad day, and is too stubborn to walk back on his decision.


TomLC

That's what woke culture is. They made someone feel unsafe.


vagfilm

TomLC: PW mods are seemingly paranoid with posts unrelated to the question. Read the last post the MOD on the thread that motivated the ban: "Fair warning: first post that isn't relevant to the discussion is going to get the poster some serious, perhaps permanent time off."

Why do you keep bringing up "safe", "unsafe", "woke" and other nonsense? This was not about locker-room jokes or something like that (is this what you mean by "safe"?). It is about Mods not liking the constant drift of attention, like teachers, coaches, parents and sargeants prefer that people "keep their head in the task ahead". Does that make teachers, coaches, parents and sargeants "woke"? That is a very black and white way to go around in the world. Some people feel safe on black and white sets of rules; I feel safe in all environments.


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