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My Concern with PianoTeq

pipAT

IIRC, YAM and KAWA Digital Pianos are all samples, AWM or PCM tech based. Roland is in the league of PTQ, modelling. And IIRC, Sir Pete is using YAM digital pianos. Yam digital piano and sampled vis are all samples. Why sampled vis are to the blame? Was there any unhappy purchase experience of those samples?


David Lai

Another thing. Pete mentioned version 9 is coming. Let's think about the release cycle of PianoTeq, if there is one.

If a Google search got the info right, PianoTeq 6 was released September 6, 2017, version 7 in December 11, 2020, and most recent version 8 in November 16, 2022.

So, why don't we just wait? We still have a couple of months till 2024 is out, will version 9 come this year? It's about time they release it. And then we can judge if Pete is dreaming or there's truth in his posts. I'm willing to be on the side lines watching it all happen.

However, from 6 to 8, the tone hasn't improved much, which is still quite sad.


David Lai

QuasiUnaFantasia Good point. Also, the CPU power on phones and other smart devices doesn't allow very much live processing, so you can have PianoTeq on these platforms, too.


QuasiUnaFantasia

David Lai However, from 6 to 8, the tone hasn't improved much, which is still quite sad.

I upgraded from version 6 to version 7, but I did not feel the sound improved at all. New features were introduced, but by then I had discovered samples ...



David Lai

Pete14 Dear Pete, We're not joking around or dreaming here. Face the facts, man!


pianow

pipAT

no, the whole thing is because he's a child, unhappy, always whining about how the things truly are.
he just wants to be different then the majority
if we were in the modeling team, he would be talking about how samples are the future, how great and high quality they are compared to modeled pianos.


Pete14

QuasiUnaFantasia the real problem for Pianoteq is that Modartt are adamant in keeping the CPU requirements very low, and for this reason they have to avoid including a lot of high frequency material, and this entails distortion relative to the "correct" tone.

Okay, I’ll give an inch here….

In the past this seemed to play right into the hands of people still using their grandma’s computer, and not willing to upgrade to a Mac Pro, but today we have a totally new reality, and what would’ve cost thousands then, can now be had for hundreds (the M2 Mac Mini, for example), and now that the M4 Mac Mini is about to be released, the M2 will go down in price; never mind the M1 Mini; which is still a powerhouse despite.


QuasiUnaFantasia

Pete14 Maybe that will indeed prompt a change in Modartts' approach.


Pete14

QuasiUnaFantasia

Yes!

And further elaborating on your point, I remember Modartt at one point talking about the mammoth amount of calculations per seconds required to render a ‘realistic’ lower-end, and yes, I think an M2 Mac Mini would be able to handle this and then some……


Mindbullets

Pete14 That feature request has come up a few times for discussion on the Modartt forums. I've seen it most recently here: https://forum.modartt.com//viewtopic.php?id=11505&p=2

Maybe if enough people press it, it'll get some attention from Modartt? It'd be nice if they had a community wishlist where you could vote on feature requests and discuss them in a little more of an organized manner.

Maybe it's just not feasible without a total overhaul, too. Hard to say.


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Just don't.


David Lai

MacMacMac thanks. I was able to get a description of your images. I have to say, the navigation of such things are also quite good on Piano Clack


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David Lai I am very confused. Has David Lai been hacked? This is very unexpected behavior. He acts like an AI bot troll. Is his account being controlled by other people?

pianow I am very confused by this pianow who seems to go from personal tragedy to bloody personal tragedy in a poor war ravaged country and then is suddenly a wealthy VST savant.

What is going on here? Is @Pete14 just pulling some puppet strings so that we can all have a great laugh? When is the big reveal?


pianow

[deleted] I am very confused by this pianow who seems to go from personal tragedy to bloody personal tragedy in a poor war ravaged country and then is suddenly a wealthy VST savant

first of all, yes you're quite confused buddy, second I'm not that wealthy but some 200 - 400$ vsts aren't something to talk about really (maybe you guys are still living with your parents so 200$ is difficult to stomach), and lastly... do you really think my country is a poor war ravaged one? haha maybe you should stop consuming what social media is feeding you with and read some books about how wealthy, prosperous and peaceful the asain countries are (or maybe visit for yourself) btw your clown friend started this in the first place, he had it coming.


David Lai

[deleted] what is this new account doing here? Frankly, I’m not hacked. I’m David. I’m very tired of Pete14’s strange opinions and disregard for reality. Are you an alternative account created by him? If so, how could you accuse me of being an AI?


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pianow Iran and Israel are at war according to the news, no? You work almost 24 hours a day but you have time to immediately reply to anyone with your vast knowledge of VSTs.

David Lai So you pirated Pianoteq 6 according to your own words? And you're here sharing about that with your "bros"? "Heck"! No joke! Sorry David, something changed whether AI or not. We guys can tell.


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