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Studiologic Numa X Piano 73 Review

CyberGene

Intro

I received the Studiologic Numa X Piano one week ago, had one rehearsal with it and gathered some impressions. At the bottom of this review I've put a background section about how I ended up with it after changing numerous stage pianos and keyboards for the past 2 years and ultimately downgraded from a wonderful Yamaha CP88 that costs more than 2 times the price of the Numa.

First Impressions

The piano looks very compact and at a first glance it gives the impression of a 61-key keyboard. Funnily enough I also purchased a 61-key soft bag that happened to be a perfect (albeit a bit tight) fit for it, the Gator GKB-61 Slim. So, they managed to squeeze a 73-key stage piano with a hammer action in the absolute minimum dimensions which is fantastic. It fits sideways in the trunk of my car. Even if it was 1cm longer it would have been too big already, so a great luck to have one of the shortest possible 73-keys pianos at 105cm. Also it's very light at 11.7kg and my back is thanking me. Looks very solid, all metal body with two plastic side panels. The two sticks look flimsy and I'd prefer proper mod/pitch wheels but I can forgive it considering how compact it is. The included piano style sustain pedal is also very lightweight. It's not a half-pedal though. However the piano supports continuous pedals, and there's an optional triple-pedal that can be purchased separately.

And here comes the first surprise: I couldn't turn the piano on. I tried, I checked the adapter, the cables, the connection, all seemed good but the piano just couldn't turn on. There's a very small power button that's just a "soft" button you push (it won't stay pushed, instead there's electronics that's supposed to detect that you're pushing it). So, that made me experiment a little and it turns out I have to press it very slowly for the piano to turn on. The detection happens halfway through the travel. However turning the instrument off is the opposite: it happens regardless of how quick you press the button and again it happens halfway through the travel. I wrote an email to Studiologic describing this and other observations (see further) and received a quick response from their product manager Gianni Giudici who is very responsive and friendly. He explained they implemented a protection logic and so this behavior is expected and there's no issue. I haven't noticed the same behavior with my Numa X Piano 88 when I had it, so I believe there's certain variability or they changed the detection logic. I also find it a bit odd that it's so difficult to turn the instrument on and so easy to turn it off, should be the other way around. It would have been great if they used an internal power and not an adapter but in that price range that's the norm.

User Interface, controls

There's a nice color OLED screen. A lot has already been posted about the new concepts of the Numa X Piano called UXLogic and how intuitive it is. I can confirm that. Of course, it's not as intuitive as the Yamaha CP88 where you have many encoders and buttons for most of the functions, however given the limited number of knobs and buttons on the Numa they managed to make it very easy to follow and get used to the main concepts which include encoders that can be both rotated and pushed, the main one can even be tilted up/down/right/left, etc. and you can always see on the screen what functions can be used by each control (push, rotate, tilt sideways, press and hold). Each zone is color coded and the LED-s around knobs change to denote the zone. I have a red-green color blindness (protanomaly) and was worried if I may have difficulties with the zone colors but that's not the case, although I have some problems distinguishing between the yellow and the green colors... But you can always see which zone is selected through the corresponding button anyway.

The encoders have a nice tactile click on rotation, so it feels very nice and easy to scroll through menus, change instruments, values, etc. However I must admit that the main encoder that is used for navigating between sounds, would very rarely click backwards before going one click forwards and thus it negates itself. That's annoying and I think I've read other people mentioning this problem too, so unfortunately it spoils a bit the good impressions about solid and firm feel of the controls.

Keyboard Action

This is Fatar TP-110 which is the successor to the TP-100LR. Since I've owned a SL73 with TP-100LR which I hated for being extremely heavy and sluggish, I can confirm the TP110 is an apparent improvement and feels much better. It's still on the heavy side but is certainly not sluggish to play, bottoms out harder than before and I like that very much. It feels lighter than the action of CP88 which some people find too heavy. I love the action in the CP88 although it has pretty high initial resistance. There's something in the CP88 action that makes it more realistic and more reminiscent of a real piano action than TP-110. On the other hand I still find TP-110 better than most entry level actions such as GHS, so ultimately TP-110 is a good middle ground action that should be pretty universal. It's easy to play fast, as well as to play soft and expressively, with a good dynamic response. It also uses triple sensor and you can replay keys without releasing them fully. I could repeat keys as fast as I could. They have improved the touch response with their newer firmware versions and I found it pretty good, although by default it might be slightly on the overly-sensitive side but this can be tweaked.

Surprisingly for a hammer action, it also supports channel aftertouch and it's very easy to control, you don't need to break your fingers to activate it. It's not smooth as my Hydrasynth, however for a hammer action it's great and I used it to control a software synth for which it worked good (had to smooth out the response in the synth though). Name any keyboard with a hammer action in the โ‚ฌ1000 price range that supports aftertouch!

Since it's a 73 key version, the range is E-E which I understand is how the Rhodes pianos are. As a classical pianist used to 88-keys, I find it slightly confusing, I'm not used to that and I often find myself pressing the wrong keys in the two ends. I'd much prefer if it was C-C, having slightly more bass keys down to the nearest C, and won't mind sacrificing the high keys instead.

Sounds

Pianos - first the good part. There's a huge variety of piano samples to cover different characters, bright and dark, modern and classical, upright pianos, etc. They all have high quality to them and I can easily find myself using any of them for different purposes. There are also optional sounds that you can download from the website and install and there's around 1GB of user memory for those. As a matter of fact I found the best piano sounds to be the optional ones, especially the Japanese C-183 (apparently a Yamaha). However there's a certain dullness in all pianos when played quietly in the bass. I understand it's a mix of sampling and modeling, and AFAIK the piano engine is inherited from the (now defunct) GEM brand and includes some sampling/storage/compression optimizations that make it possible to fit a lot of samples in a small footprint (the optional pianos are around 100MB each) and this is a speculation but I think they do some spectral compression stuff or something which I'm afraid is responsible for the slightly odd response when playing quietly, especially in the bass. I get the feeling the pianissimos in the bass are just the regular mp samples but replayed quietly, I don't get a soft and dark character. It's not the end of the world though, since it's a stage piano, so these details would be hard to hear in a live situation. You need to be nitpicking with headphones at home. However I think you may have to test it thoroughly yourself if you're looking for the ultimate piano replacement at home. It may work for you or not.

The piano resonances are modeled and to my ears they sound very nice. There's only damper resonance (which confusingly they call string resonance) and no (per key) string resonance. There are also pedal noises which are absolutely annoying when used with the included pedal, way too loud and almost machine gun-like if you press/release the pedal quickly. Furthermore, the default degree of that effect for all pianos is too high and there's no global way to turn it down, so whenever you start creating a new performance, you have to turn that down. If you save the performance it will get saved though. I recorded an example of the machine-gun pedaling and sent it to Gianni and he responded that indeed it doesn't sound good because the piano pedal is only a switch and the pedal noises would sound much better with the optional triple-pedal where a degree (hence velocity) of the pedal can be detected. He said they may add a global setting to turn down the pedal noises.

Electric Pianos They are fully modeled. I'm a huge sceptic about modeled acoustic pianos, and by an extension the electric ones. However the three Rhodes models sound rather good. I think the default presets they created are a bit too bright and bell-like for my taste but due to the modeling I was able to change crucial parameters of the hammers and tines and make my own Rhodes sound which I really love. I still think the sampled Rhodes pianos in the CP88 have an edge but it's not a really big difference. On the other hand I was able to hear the sample switching in the Yamaha, whereas here all is smooth thanks to the modeling, there's nice bark, I hear some randomness simulated. Maybe modeling is already there when speaking about electric pianos (not yet for acoustic pianos but that's another topic ๐Ÿ˜‰). I'm not a huge fan or Wurlitzer, so can't speak whether it's good or not. There are also some so called "Hybrid FM" pianos where a (sampled?) attack from FM pianos is followed by the modeled Rhodes engine. Some of those are interesting, others are rather lame.

Other sounds - Haven't dug too much into them, the tonewheel organs sound good to me and the Rotary simulation is pretty good with smoothly changing low/fast speed assigned to the mod stick. Gianni himself is a top-notch Hammond player (look him up on YouTube) and he said he programmed those patches himself. There are some synth sounds, including lead synth sounds but those don't have portamento and are not monophonic which makes them really not fun to play. There are some nice pads and strings though and many other sounds which I haven't had chance to use so far.

Features

The most important feature for me about this keyboard, and I need to stress this out, is an absolutely terrific 4-zone external MIDI implementation with class compliant USB-audio support. It just blows the CP88 out in the wind! Although the Yamaha also has 4 external MIDI zones and USB audio, those are buried in the menus and are very hard to use. On the Numa X these zones can be treated in the same way as the internal ones: you can easily turn them on and off during a live performance from the main zone knobs, you can control their volume through the same knobs, you can assign each of the four knobs (in zoom mode) to configured MIDI control changes, you can easily set splits. Basically, there's no difference between an external and internal zone. This is just the perfect stage piano to integrate with software synths! I'm so pleasantly surprised that this fact alone makes me a huge Studologic fanboy! I played a rehearsal where I had two internal zones (Rhodes and an acoustic piano) and two external MIDI ones going through the USB (carrying both audio and MIDI) to my Mac running Logic Pro X with two instances of U-He Diva. It was divine! I could easily turn on/off each of these zones thus creating splits and layers on the spot and Diva is probably the best sounding plugin I've ever heard, so it was all a dream to me. The other guys noted how well I sounded.

Another mind-blowing feature on the Numa X is that when you switch off a zone (internal or external) and if you have some keys held, it won't cut them off as on the Yamaha CP88 where the zone on/off buttons would just interrupt the entire sound including effects instantly in a very ugly audible way. In the Numa though, it's very well made with the zone just paused for receiving further keyboard input, however the currently held keys would still keep sounding and any note releases will be preserved, along with the effect reverb tails, etc.. And when you combine that with what I described above: turning zones on/off while I was playing, it just made for the smoothest possible experience. Kudos to Studiologic!

The various effects are very high quality and equivalent to those in the CP88. However switching between effects while playing would lead to some click and pops which is unfortunately something where it's worse than the Yamaha but I believe changing effects that are applied to a sound during playing is not a very common scenario anyway. There are two effects per zone + global delay and reverb + EQ. The various reverbs are of especially high quality. The drive/amp simulations are also pretty good.

The Numa X has 4 mono inputs that can be combined into two stereo inputs and those can go through their separate effects, a mixer and EQ, unlike the Yamaha which just routes the audio input to the output.

There's a software manager for updating the firmware, uploading optional sounds, managing performances, etc. and it looked nice and intuitive.

Part of the "features" is how responsive Gianni Guidici is, their product manager. He responds quickly through email and answered all my questions, he promised they will review my suggestions and he even invited me to their headquarters when I visit Italy next time ๐Ÿ™‚

Conclusion

In my previous review of the Numa X Piano 88 I approached it as the ultimate piano, from my point of view of a classical pianist looking for the best piano experience and that was wrong. And I was disappointed. However this time I purchased it, and am reviewing it, as a gigging stage piano. It doesn't disappoint and impressed me enough to keep it and love it! The Numa X pianos are stage pianos for live performance (solo or in a band) and they have some terrific features that are unmatched for the price. They nevertheless have some quirks and peculiarities and I see some people having quality issues, so you should be cautious.

BTW, the highest E key on my Numa had loud thump on release. I unscrewed very slightly one of the side panel screws next to that key hammer and that solved it. Apparently the hammer was touching the screw ๐Ÿ˜€ Gianni swears this is not the way it's designed and must have been caused by transportation. I don't know what the truth is but I don't care, I fixed it and I'm OK with a screw being slightly loose after all, there are so many of them on each side panel and they have no weight bearing or structural function, they are only used to hold the side panels to the body. I love Italian things and I know they have their own mind from time to time ๐Ÿ˜‰ Italians seem to posses great engineering skills but maybe the quality isn't exactly a strength. I'm glad to know that the piano is entirely made in Italy since I can't stop repeating how much I love Italy ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นโค๏ธ

Background

For those who might miss the context, here's some perspective. I needed a portable instrument for occasional jams, no professional usage. Mostly pop/funk type of music with jazzy feel, Rhodes sound being the most used sound. I would best describe myself as a classical pianist, I only like real grand piano actions, I have a Yamaha AvantGrand N1X which is my main instrument and I consider all digital pianos unsatisfactory ๐Ÿ˜€ But for my gigging purposes I didn't care much.โ€จโ€จ So, for the last two years I went through the following instruments:

Studiologic SL73 Studio - awful keyboard (Fatar TP-100LR), heavy and sluggish.

Yamaha MODX6 - surprisingly playable keyboard, despite considered the worst synth action in the Yamaha line. Fantastic sounds. But very unintuitive for live playing and hard to understand all these convoluted concepts. Might have been good as a preset-machine but I didn't like the idea and sold it.

Yamaha YC61 - liked it a lot, especially the waterfall keyboard which was perfect for piano playing. Didn't want to sell it but 5-octaves were too limiting for piano and Rhodes playing.

Yamaha YC73 - great, although a bit expensive for what I needed. The action was OK. It had a defect and I had to return it. Since there were no other available units, had to find some other instrument

Numa X Piano 88 - I posted my experience here The keyboard action is OK, probably better than YC73 but not by much. Lukewarm acoustic pianos that always sounded dull to me. Pianissimos were very weird and a bit odd to control. Rhodes is OK, but the one in Yamaha is better and more varied. The interface is not as intuitive as advertised, less intuitive and direct than Yamaha. Also had some sound artifacts but I was on the initial firmware version. Returned it and decided to go back to Yamaha. But at this point the only available Yamaha stage piano was CP88.

Yamaha CP88 - fantastic instrument! Great piano action (although on the heavy side), excellent pianos and Rhodes. A dream instrument, really hard to find any complaints. But... Way too heavy and caused some pain in my back because I have a herniated spinal disc. Couldn't fit in the trunk of my car, so I had to fold down the backseat and thus lost seats and I drive my bandmates in the car. It was sad but I sold it and purchased the Numa X Piano 73.


David B

CyberGene Even if it was 1cm longer it would have been too big already, so a great luck to have one of the shortest possible 73-keys pianos at 105cm. Also it's very light at 11.7kg and my back is thanking me.

Win # 1

CyberGene I wrote an email to Studiologic describing this and other observations (see further) and received a quick response from their product manager Gianni Giudici who is very responsive and friendly.

Wind # 2 Love good customer service.

CyberGene so unfortunately it spoils a bit the good impressions about solid and firm feel of the controls.

Minus 1

CyberGene I can confirm the TP110 is an apparent improvement and feels much better.

Win # 3

CyberGene There's a huge variety of piano samples to cover different charactersโ€ฆThey all have high quality to them and I can easily find myself using any of them for different purposes.

Win # 4

CyberGene However there's a certain dullness in all pianos when played quietly in the bass.

Minus .5 since it's not your primary home piano, but rather stage.

CyberGene He said they may add a global setting to turn down the pedal noises.

Minus .5 for the inconvenience.

CyberGene I was able to change crucial parameters of the hammers and tines and make my own Rhodes sound which I really love.

Win # 5

CyberGene The most important feature for me about this keyboard, and I need to stress this out, is an absolutely terrific 4-zone external MIDI implementation with class compliant USB-audio support.

Win # 6

CyberGene Part of the "features" is how responsive Gianni Guidici is, their product manager. He responds quickly through email and answered all my questions, he promised they will review my suggestions and he even invited me to their headquarters when I visit Italy next time

Additional Win # 7 for extraordinary customer service.

CyberGene I fixed it and I'm OK with a screw being slightly loose after all, there are so many of them on each side panel and they have no weight bearing or structural function, they are only used to hold the side panels to the body.

You can always put a little blue loctite on the threads and partially screw it back in. Then you don't have to be concerned with it falling out.

CyberGene I'm glad to know that the piano is entirely made in Italy since I can't stop repeating how much I love Italy ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นโค๏ธ

Win # 8 As an Italian American, it makes me proud to hear that. ๐Ÿ˜€

Wins = 8
Minus = 2

You did good my friend. Now we must see a video or none of it actually happened. ๐Ÿ˜€

God Bless,
David


CyberGene

David B thank you for the nice shootout score, indeed I think its pros are much more than its cons.

And regarding Italians, you are a proof of how nice you people are ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป I've never considered emigration but if I have to choose someday where to go, my first choice would be Italy of course. We were on a vacation in Bari last week (not my first time in Italy of course, but first time in Bari) and I felt like it's a place I would feel at home, the people, the food, the vibe, everything! I was quite surprised (or maybe it was expected) that in a genetic testing I found I am close to 20% Italian if I'm not mistaken, although I don't really know where that comes from but I think we Bulgarians have southern/Mediterranean genes similar to Italians.

If I find some time I may record some demo of the Numa X, luckily it can send audio through a USB directly hooked to the iPhone like the Yamaha, so it's really easy to make videos with it.


nhanzero

CyberGene Thanks for your review, and by the way if you do like Yamaha CP88, why don't you try P515, I guess they are the same?


CyberGene

nhanzero I need a 73-key instrument that is as light and compact as possible. I was considering CP/YC73 but they are slightly bulkier than the Numa.


CyberGene

I started recording a video review with my Fuji camera, a microphone, etc. but that audio and video drifted so much that it ended up a total failure and I gave up ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ For that reason alone I'm just posting a long 23 minute audio of the entire session noodling around with sounds, first acoustic pianos, then some Rhodes and some other sounds... Apologies for posting a huge bulk of audio that probably doesn't help anybody too much but still better than nothing ๐Ÿ˜•

numa-x-piano-73-noodling-demo.mp3


Koobenot

@CyberGene Nice romanting playing! ๐Ÿ‘

As an owner of Numa Compact 2, I'd say that engine of the X Piano is an "upgraded" version of what the Numa can present.

The pianos are harmonically richer, when it comes to resonances and overall sustain, there's as well the damper pedal sound included. I prefer it a little bit more silent than what I'm hearing, but it's cool and realistic.

The Rhodes pianos have more bite and more dynamics than the one in the Numa, I feel like the Numa Rhodes is just the same sample with different volume, there's not a lot of dynamic in the tines and bells - per say you woudn't get more bells/tines if you hit the key harder, which is implemented in the X Piano and I dig that. I also love the fact when you hit it harder it's on the edge to get this "break-up" Rhodes sound which makes it really authentic.

The FM pianos are a bit weird and strange, they feel like a "demo"version of the Yamaha DX7 with not enough stereo and harmonic content, although they will be fine when played live.

As far as I heard from the synths, the Oberheim OB-X sound was cool, then the Pad as well and in the end you played a MiniMoog sample which also sounds nice.

My overall feeling for the engine is that for the price range has a decent quality, but is not as top-notch as the Yamaha CP one or an expensive sophisticated VST library, so I'd say 7/10 for the sample quality.


CyberGene

Koobenot The pianos are harmonically richer, when it comes to resonances and overall sustain, there's as well the damper pedal sound included. I prefer it a little bit more silent than what I'm hearing, but it's cool and realistic.

I agree the pedal noise is too loud and I've reported that to Studiologic and Gianni confirmed that with the included on/off pedal that's indeed too loud and they may think of a global setting that would decrease that noise which is what I would do. This noise can be turned down in the zoom settings but any time I change to another piano sound (what I'm doing in this demo) it reverts to the default, so it's very annoying, one of my main criticism about the piano engine.

Koobenot I also love the fact when you hit it harder it's on the edge to get this "break-up" Rhodes sound which makes it really authentic.

Indeed, the Rhodes piano has that bark when pressed harder and as far as I understand they even modeled some randomness there which I feel. Absolutely a top-notch Rhodes emulation. The more I play it, the more I like it. I previously said the Yamaha CP88 has an edge because they sampled real Rhodes pianos but I'm not really sure now, they are probably on par. Taking in mind I purchased the Numa X Piano to use it as a controller for software plugins and will use only the Rhodes piano from its internal patches, it's a mission accomplished for me ๐Ÿ™‚

Koobenot The FM pianos are a bit weird and strange, they feel like a "demo"version of the Yamaha DX7 with not enough stereo and harmonic content, although they will be fine when played live.

Yes, the FM-pianos are useless. Not that I'm ever gonna use a DX-piano in any of the music I do but anyway, some people love them.

Koobenot As far as I heard from the synths, the Oberheim OB-X sound was cool, than the Pad as well and in the end you played a MiniMoog sample which also sounds nice.

I'm not even sure why I tested the pads and strings, I think software plugins are light years ahead of stage pianos in terms of synth sounds but yes, they are still usable.

Koobenot My overall feeling for the engine is that for the price range has a decent quality, but is not as top-notch as the Yamaha CP one or an expensive sophisticated VST library, so I'd say 7/10 for the sample quality.

Exactly. But for the price and excellent MIDI features it's totally worth it. Even used standalone as a fully fledged stage piano it still punches way above its weight because a CP73 for instance has only slightly better sounds but costs more than 1.5x more, has inferior GHS action, no triple sensors, no aftertouch, less advanced external MIDI zone, no 4-channel AD input that can go through the internal FX engine. I'm not even sure there's currently any stage piano on the market in the โ‚ฌ1000 price range that can offer as much as the Numa X Piano 73.


Koobenot

This noise can be turned down in the zoom settings but any time I change to another piano sound (what I'm doing in this demo) it reverts to the default, so it's very annoying, one of my main criticism about the piano engine.

Can't you save it in a preset?

Yes, the FM-pianos are useless. Not that I'm ever gonna use a DX-piano in any of the music I do but anyway, some people love them.

The DX7 on it's own is useless as well, normally they layer it with another piano + pad, like in this Europe classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upH1x4TsGNQ

I'm not even sure there's currently any stage piano on the market in the โ‚ฌ1000 price range that can offer as much as the Numa X Piano 73.

I trully believe that Studiologic found the perfect balance between price and quality despite the described bugs in the review โ€ฆ so totally worth it for the money! ๐Ÿ‘


CyberGene

CyberGene This noise can be turned down in the zoom settings but any time I change to another piano sound (what I'm doing in this demo) it reverts to the default, so it's very annoying, one of my main criticism about the piano engine.

Koobenot Can't you save it in a preset?

Yes, it can be saved in a "performance" (that's what it's called, basically the set of all 4 zones, so for a solo piano you enable only one zone), and once you make a piano that you like and save it with a lowered hammer noise then it will be loaded every time with that setting. However if you edit the preset and change the piano from e.g. the German Grand to the Japanese Grand, the default hammer noise will be back to the high value.


Koobenot

Ah, right. Well that's not very inuitive IMHO, Gianni and the gang should work on that! ๐Ÿ˜„


CyberGene

Update: doesn't work well.

I can confirm that the Numa X Piano supports half-pedaling with the Roland DP-10 pedal ๐Ÿฅณ Thatโ€™s my favorite sustain pedal due to the anti-slip mat you step on. It has a switch for choosing between binary (on/off) mode and half-pedal mode, you should of course use the latter. And in the Numa system settings you have to select the โ€œContinuous Bโ€ mode.

Unfortunately I have to correct the above advice regarding the Roland DP-10. Seems like both A and B continuous modes have different issues. The A mode tends to generate some low MIDI values even when released, like e.g. 0, 1, 2 and that messes up with the Electric piano patches that keep sounding for a few seconds after you release the pedal. Conversely, the B mode would only reach MIDI values of 112 or something and so the acoustic piano patches would not have full sustain.

I just emailed the Studiologic support to suggest they implement a third mode C which would work with Roland DP-10 and will offer the entire 0-127 MIDI range in a narrower region, say between 20-80% of the entire mechanical movement of the pedal. Hopefully they can implement it.


David B

CyberGene I can confirm that the Numa X Piano supports half-pedaling with the Roland DP-10 pedal ๐Ÿฅณ Thatโ€™s my favorite sustain pedal due to the anti-slip mat you step on.

DP-10 is the bomb! I hand it when for a little while when I owned the FP-30X. Love the anti-slip pad. Best accessory pedal I ever used.

God Bless,
David


HZPiano

CyberGene Roland DP-10

Hello,

Yes, it's a nice one.

I purchased it one day and at the same time ordered an F10-H from Kawai, to see which one I liked best. I ended up keeping the Kawai (absolutely LOVE it) and even ordering another one. Of course I went through a learning curve with the Kawais because they are optical and need special interfacing when used with non-Kawai instruments, or when used with the Kawai VPC1. I described that little adventure elsewhere on the 'Clack some time ago.

I gave the DP-10 to my brother who is having a ball with it.

Cheers and happy pedaling,

HZ


CyberGene

I also have the Kawai F10H which I use with the Cybrid. I even reverse engineered it to be able to use it.

However for gigging the most important feature is to have non-sliding pedal on the floor. Iโ€™ve been reminded about that recently when I resumed my band rehearsals and I used the Studiologic pedal first but I had to seek it all over the floor all the time ๐Ÿคฌ So, I got my old and trusted Roland DP-10. However for home playing the Kawai is a great one too although both of them are too soft springed and unrealistic.


kawafanboi

CyberGene On the other hand I still find TP-110 better than most entry level actions such as GHS, so ultimately TP-110 is a good middle ground action that should be pretty universal. It's easy to play fast, as well as to play soft and expressively, with a good dynamic response. It also uses triple sensor and you can replay keys without releasing them fully. I could repeat keys as fast as I could. They have improved the touch response with their newer firmware versions and I found it pretty good, although by default it might be slightly on the overly-sensitive side but this can be tweaked.

the 1 redeeming feature of GHS is that it's fast, goes Brr rr rr rr rr rr rr. How's the Brr rr rr rr rr rr rr performance on the new 110 ?

Defacto peak Brr rr rr rr rr rr rr for me is the RHC across all the actions I tested. have you played RHC Cybergene


CyberGene

kawafanboi I haven't tested the TP-110 for fast repetitions, will do that some day. I think it's pretty fast though but until I test it can't say for sure.

As to RHC, yes I've played the ES110, it's in the same ballpark IMO. Haven't tested them side by side but I believe the Kawai is lighter feeling than TP110 though.


CyberGene

And here's another heads-up, I recently purchased an iPad Mini 6 which works great with the Numa X Piano 73, and not only fits on the rightmost side of the piano but also seems to have some magnet inside that would make it stick to the metal panel of the Numa and prevents slip, I am very happy.


And just to repeat something that someone may have missed. The Numa X Piano has an embedded audio interface, so I connect it to the iPad with a single USB-B to USB-C cable (yeah, the iPad is now with a USB-C connector and doesn't need the camera adapter anymore) and both MIDI and audio work automatically, no need to configure anything, synth apps receive MIDI and their audio is routed back to the Numa.

BTW, I remember reading some BS on PW about how Kawai cannot put audio interfaces in their pianos because unlike Yamaha they don't own Steinberg, how they have to hire someone to write drivers and blah-blah-blah... Well, here you have a small Italian company selling budget pianos with an embedded audio interface and with class-compliant USB audio. So, Kawai, come again ๐Ÿ˜‰


dore_m

Do you have the knobs mapped to the Moog filters and such?


CyberGene

dore_m well, not yet, just started experimenting with this combination. So far Iโ€™ve been using my MacBook with the Numa when practicing with the โ€œbandโ€ but I think I can downsize even further which is why I purchased the iPad Mini 6. The other reason is Apple just released Logic Pro for iPad which I downloaded 10 minutes ago and I will see how easy it would be to switch from Logic Pro on the Mac to the iPad.

As to MIDI mappings I believe thatโ€™s supported by the Moog app but I will have to test it to confirm.


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