J.S. Bach's Prelude in Color with Pianoteq 8 and LEDs

RIP Have you tried (at least in pictures) to see if you can capture them with HDR or with RAW editing, based on my earlier comments about log vs linear response of cameras vs human eye?

Indeed, I shoot all my pictures in RAW and I had been previously experimenting with recording video in S-LOG2 / CINE4 then doing the color grading in post in my previous videos.

With pictures, I have some idea of what I'm doing and I get excellent results, but with video I'm less adept. I had already recorded this footage in normal mode when I received this suggestion... and by that time I had already wrongly concluded that S-LOG2 / CINE4 was generally a waste of my time.

No doubt this would have helped a lot here!

RIP But most importantly, excellent playing, really expressive. You are progressing quite a lot, congrats!

Thank you so much!

CyberGene Fantastic video, keep on doing them!

You should record Scriabin like this!

Now I'm curious to see same the type of recording for the second half of the pair, 4 voices of the c major fugue should look really nice that way!

MHirsch You're being brutal; the fugue is four Henle levels higher. 😀

QuasiUnaFantasia You're being brutal

Well complaining to J.S. would be too late! He wrote the pair, we have to play it! Nothing brutal about it!

Learning voice by voice gets the job done 😃

Very attractive video. Vivid colors, nice playing, variety of camera angles. Really professionally done. What are you using for lighting?

God Bless,
David

David B Thank you!

If you are referring to the room lighting, it's nothing special. I bought a couple of workshop lights from Costco when they were on sale and I just direct them at the ceiling. The video itself may look different because I cranked up the saturation, to try to get the LED lights to pop a little more.

I like your video and it’s a departure from usual Rousseau , Traum and Kassia video style . I have never been able to watch these videos until the end . I can listen to it to the end without watching as they are talented pianists but I prefer a video that tells a story to complement the music . If I listen to clair de lune and see a video at the same time , I much prefer to watch a nice evocative scenery rather than to watch pianist hands . Of course, its a different matter is the purpose of the video is to be a tutorial . So we’ll done

Joannchr Thanks and thanks for the insights!

Yes, I agree with you. Rousseau has been a puzzle for me as well. I'm also unable to watch these videos.

There are indeed some pianists out there with amazing production values, but I assume they are supported by a whole production team. I also assume that they do multiple takes and piece the footage from various shoots. And the actual performance is probably recorded when no cameras are even running.

I'm shooting for the middle ground, for better or worse.

navindra definitely . It’s always a collage of several takes + midi editing to normalise note durations , specially In arpeggios passages + rendering within a DAW + specific reverb plugin + EQ . I guess nothing wrong with that . Classical recordings on CD or Vinyl of our favourite pianists are also a montage of various takes + enrichment/mixing of the audio.

Joannchr Classical recordings on CD or Vinyl of our favourite pianists are also a montage of various takes + enrichment/mixing of the audio.

True. Until recently I was unaware of that fact and it was quite a shock for me to realize that even Krystian Zimerman relied on many takes to produce the wonderful Chopin Ballade videos and the final performance is a mix from multiple takes, not just "the best" take. So far all my piano recordings have been of "easy" (for me) piano works because that's the best I can play with only a few mistakes and after more than 20 takes until I minimize the mistakes. And it makes me reconsider that approach and start attempting more difficult works and record through MIDI and then edit wrong notes. Or combine multiple takes into one without mistakes. But I don't believe in that latter approach since the feel is different in each take.

Joannchr Classical recordings on CD or Vinyl of our favourite pianists are also a montage of various takes + enrichment/mixing of the audio.

I never knew that. I also didn't realize that YouTube videos can be done like that as well. I usually have to play a song for a while, and then when I feel I'm ready to record, I'll end up recording several takes and choose the best one to upload.

God Bless,
David

David B I also didn't realize that YouTube videos can be done like that as well.

They use multiple cameras from different angles, so they can switch to the other camera at the point of stitching so that it’s not obvious.

I wonder what happens when AI can generate a video to match a given soundtrack, as in: AI generate a video that matches this sound file perfectly, showing me playing this music on my digital piano!

Just a (slightly disconcerting) thought ...

CyberGene indeed , it is hard work to reassemble and make it sound as one take . Usually what they do is they assemble different passages with different atmospheres such as intro , 1st theme introduction , 2nd theme etc. It is very difficult on acoustic to proceed otherwise . With midi you can do anything you want , adjust the tempo if needed , and it is a video ? From the moment you have at least 2 cameras , there is no limit to editing . I suspect a lot of videos using midi on YouTube are also accelerated.

David B you know sometimes it is more authentic that way . For the anecdote best recording of Ravel concerto for left hand was a recording from Samson Francois , probably the best Ravel interpreter . There was a few mistakes in the recording but overall it was an exceptional piece of art . The music company wanted to take a second shot but Samson F. refused and said that he preferred to stick with that recording as he felt it was magical and it was more important than some bump notes.

David B Joannchr Classical recordings on CD or Vinyl of our favourite pianists are also a montage of various takes + enrichment/mixing of the audio.

I never knew that.

Sadly that is the state of the affair for most recordings, and it has been so for a while.

Joannchr David B you know sometimes it is more authentic that way . For the anecdote best recording of Ravel concerto for left hand was a recording from Samson Francois , probably the best Ravel interpreter . There was a few mistakes in the recording but overall it was an exceptional piece of art . The music company wanted to take a second shot but Samson F. refused and said that he preferred to stick with that recording as he felt it was magical and it was more important than some bump notes.

Oh absolutely. Luckly, there still are live recordings. Music a performing art, and the immediacy of the performance, and the "magic" of the moment is its best IMHO. This is obviously true in jazz, but it was true in "classical" music too, more or less until the rise of the recording devices, when perfection started to become a fixation of the performers. I have some books of that era (*) in which they go at great length on what the performer should be concentrate on, and it's shockingly how different the recommendations are for concerts vs recording.

I like a lot Phil Best's quote that there are no wrong notes and no wrong rhythms, as long as what you play is what you mean (which I guess for lowly amateurs like myself is the crux….)

(*) for example this one
https://www.amazon.com/Piano-Technique-Dover-Books-Music/dp/0486228673

RIP Indeed. I also remember an interview from Herbie Hancock telling a story about a wrong chord he played while accompanying Miles Davis . He said that Miles took the wrong chord as an opportunity to transition to a new key and modal tonality .

Miles also said something around the lines of: any wrong note is only a semitone up or down from the correct note 😀

Joannchr Del Vento Indeed. I also remember an interview from Herbie Hancock telling a story about a wrong chord he played while accompanying Miles Davis . He said that Miles took the wrong chord as an opportunity to transition to a new key and modal tonality .

Thanks for sharing that! Someone else (perhaps it was Stanley Clark, but I'm not 100% sure) once said in an interview something like that:

Some good musicians he played with would be very able to hide the mistakes any other bandmember would do, and that was great. On the other hand, Chick Corea would always take the wrong note someone played as an impromptu nudge to explore something different, and Chick would go on an on playing around that "mistake", often with wonderful results. After the session, Chick often congratulated with the person who made the change, for the musical idea -- sometimes to great laughter of the whole band when recipient of the congratulations admitting it wasn't a musical idea but a mistake 🤣