Deleted My impression is an pandemic-caused influx of new users, who like to hit the report button on anything uncomfortable they read.
I don't know that it's coming from new users. But I do think we're become a society where over-sensitive and thin-skinned people are catered to.
MacMacMac - thanks Mac. I had removed that PW tab that I used to always have open in my browser so I missed this one.
acdp nails it, sums it up and presents the issues about the PW platform really well.
Overall, and this IMO, I feel there is generally too much of hate going on around the world - it may be hate, dissatisfaction, disappointment and similar negative feelings. We don't have to bring these out or exacerbate them on forums. I am not saying the mods did that or the "offenders" did that - I'm simply saying let's make PianoClack a success by not letting such happen.
Okay I just had to join over here. Thanks Cybergene.
Now I do hope Pete14 finds his way to this forum. I was one of the folks that got a little annoyed at his prose at first. But I quickly looked forward to his great writing style. I have to agree that the punishment was harsh. Anyway I do hope this site grows and grows. Pianoworld as much as I like what Frank has done really never updated the froum software. I hated to use it at times.
Cakewalk by Bandlab kept Sonar alive, renaming it Cakewalk and opening up a new forum almost 3 years ago. The new forum software is miles ahead of the old software.
Peace
CyberGene In all fairness, I believe this is a template because my ban for off topic from a year ago had the same wording if I remember correctly.
That says a lot about someone who created that template though 😏
Hi David! You are bringing an important point to the discussion. The fact is the the PW moderators do not contribute at all to the organization and optimization of the forum's contents. They also do not engage in discussions. The mods are mostly silent except except when they lock threads and ban users. I remember asking a mod a while ago to merge two threads together and got a rude reply saying that if the threads are not organized is because the users do not follow the rules. The worse is that the PW owners want to make a profit out of the forum. Maybe one day they will understand that PW is what it is not because of the mods but because of its community - including the OT posts.
arc I remember asking a mod a while ago to merge two threads together and got a rude reply saying that if the threads are not organized is because the users do not follow the rules. The worse is that the PW owners want to make a profit out of the forum.
Well, he can shove the rules up his #$&. We are not robots, perfectly going through the motions, we are human beings. If they are so lazy, then they can just shut the forum down.
The owner of PW is lying that it costs him 10000$ per year to run the forum. Even professional e-shops do not cost so much. He is just playing victim, begging for donations. If it really costed him that much, he would have shut it down long ago.
Pianissimo Yes, but in a forum attached to a newspaper or other media outlet, the user community is not generating the content but commenting on it.
But in a forum like PW everything is generated by the user community. Removing "off topic" posts and banning users that are engaged in a civil discussion makes no sense.
Maybe the PW owners want not only to monetize PW but also to transform it into something like the stackexchange forums where there is a distinction between posts which are strictly enforced to be on topic, and informal discussions. But I guess that if PW moves in that direction the forum would die in months.
arc Its already dead for me.
@arc: There is a possible reason for controlling the content. My wife moderated a board and wrote news for it (before she joined me in blissful RETIREMENT). The board owner was threatened with a loss of google ad revenue because of offensive photos posted on the board. So they had to clean things up.
I think copyright infringement might be another reason for lost advertising (but that was not happening on that board).
So some kinds of postings might cost PW some google ads … if any of those ads we see were placed by google. But, two things:
Skropi Its already dead for me.
It's dead for me, too.
arc Maybe the PW owners want not only to monetize PW but also to transform it into something like the stackexchange forums where there is a distinction between posts which are strictly enforced to be on topic, and informal discussions. But I guess that if PW moves in that direction the forum would die in months.
The minimum requirement for anything skilled professionals would use beyond casual chitchat is threads with tree-style followups, so users can actually follow along branches, they find interesting. Reddit does it, Stackexchange does it.
vBB and its competitors don't.
absolutely true, I read a newspaper because of the articles. But if they allow comments then they need to know how to moderate. This is one of the inevitable line:
Me: " So mods, why did you remove my comment this time, I didn't say anything rude."
The mods "Comments? It's not our priority. We don't care about your comments."
Me: "I know that you don't care, but we do."
Wondered if you were going to join here. 😄
Gombessa About time you joined us. 🥳
And … welcome.
Wooof!
Pianoclack security check achieved; as you were, over and out/pcsc-eot
So MacMacMac is this the place that we will find out what piano you finally buy?
InstrEd buy?
THIS is such a pertinent question, to me, that it warrants its own tag/category or sub-category ...............” the art of the DP deal “ 🙂
One of the reasons i came back to PW this past Spring, after the hiatus i took subsequent to becoming a member in late 15’/early 16’, was to find out if the answer had yet arrived.
My mother ( a great mother) was from the era of full time mother/housewife & Nurse who, by circumstance, became a daytime soaps junkie. When i left home in 77’ and began the habit of visiting home & family every so often, i found that a day or two in front of the tube with mother would quickly catch me up on these mellow dramas, as though i had never left them despite being away from them from a few months to a few years at a time. Likewise goes MacMacMac’s next piano ‘Days of Our Lives .... As the World Turns ....Edge of Night’ ... still not resolved but i wanna know how it turns out if/when it happens 😉
