Roland are releasing a software piano

I feel I have to provide some aid for @Pete14 . I recently tried the new LX9 from Roland which I suppose have their latest and greatest sound engine and no sound in that piano rivals the new Bösendorfer from Pianoteq IMHO.

I listened to the new Roland, no like, very artificially sound, especially in classical pieces. No fun of listening to the Pictures at an exhibition excerpt.

johanibraaten I feel I have to provide some aid for @Pete14 . I recently tried the new LX9 from Roland which I suppose have their latest and greatest sound engine and no sound in that piano rivals the new Bösendorfer from Pianoteq IMHO.

Thank you, Sir!

It seems like the truth eventually finds its way to cut through the BS; although I’ll admit that sometimes it can be slow at it……

johanibraaten

i also think that the ptq 280vc is the finest modeled piano on the market

Pianoteq is the best among the modeled software pianos.

pianow i also think that the ptq 280vc is the finest

CyberGene Pianoteq is the best

It seems my work is done here!

Pete14 😊

Pete14
yea? so pack it up and hit the road buddy😂

pianow i also think that the ptq 280vc is the finest modeled piano on the market

yeah, it’s not bad and a step forward for Pianoteq IMO. Especially for certain music it can provide a really enjoyable playing experience

pianow i also think that the ptq 280vc is the finest modeled piano on the market

I think they still have ways to go before I’m truly convinced. I’m still in the sample camp, and Pete14 won’t effect me!

they should've done this years ago, and switched to controllers w/ pi's

there's no reason we need these oddball custom boards just to do something so basic.

the only custom board we need is a good hifi-section dac and amplifier.

i don't believe rolo is up to the standard of Pianoteq though, they are by far the most advanced piano engine.

David Lai

I'm in the sample camp as well
i just said it's the best between the shitty sounding modelled pianos, it's not even comparable to the most affordable sampled pianos that i have (like my beloved grandeur which i bought for 20$ if I'm not mistaken, i Bought it as an included instrument in the komplete bundle so i don't exactly know how much I've paid for it but it was pretty low for sure)

and yea the modeling has yet to sound even normal

PTQ? Is that a new addition to the acronym … as in LGBTQIAPTQ ?

MacMacMac

yup, it's the symbol of people who attracted to fake versions of a real life subject
and Pete's a member, his (sorry) pronounce is digi/hybr

MacMacMac PTQ stands for a Piano Tech company known as "PianoTeq." PTQ, got it?

I was trying to download the Pictures at an Exhibition Demo because I could hear some strange beating in the middle of the track - wanted to analyze. Anyone know how to get the audio for analysis? I can't seem to do it.

dore_m

pictures.mp3

You can see the beating here. It's a E flat and a G, which are related harmonically, and when I tune a piano, I at least try to get these intervals to not beat. But you can see clearly here that it's intentionally like this since this is not even a real piano - it's tuned this way for some reason.

For those who don't know what they're looking at, the spectral display shows, by the brightness of the yellow bands, the energy of each frequency going up the chart (Y axis). For each line, it's the energy of one frequency. When you see disjointed lines, that's beating, or the twanginess you hear when something is nearly in tune, but not perfectly.

Guess it could be the temperament. I was never good at understanding the effect of different temperaments, but I suppose this is probably one of them.

dore_m Guess it could be the temperament. I was never good at understanding the effect of different temperaments, but I suppose this is probably one of them.

I think it is. There are two CDs recorded by a PW technician (Ed, IIRC) which demonstrate these beatings in Equal Temperament and how they are greatly reduced if not completely eliminated by Well and Just Temperaments in the "appropriate" key, while at the same time they are greatly increased in the "far" key.

Well if you can adjust temperament with a software piano I wonder why did they choose one that accentuates the beating for that piece?