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New Yamaha retrofit silent unit and grade up unit.

skywalker

Queue99

Can you elaborate on the 'key sensor board' being corroded? How could a synth repairman fix it? I might try to find someone like this here in San Francisco, but am wondering if the sound / reliability in the new VSH3 is not so much better than the old system, that the upgrade is worth anyway?


Paulo164

skywalker

It was a typo. It’s RSC3 or VSH3 only.

And yes, RSC3 = VSH3 + hammer stop bar - some features on the control unit.

Otherwise, same quality.


Paulo164

skywalker

Yes, the upgrade is worth anyway.


Queue99

skywalker

As you can see from the photos, the board and components are corroded due to liquid leakage from the capacitor on the sensor board. The microscopic patterns and through holes are broken and cannot be repaired by simply replacing the components.

Vintage synth craftsmen and board restorers are good at this repair.

The first generation silent stoppers were board-like and difficult to adjust section by section.

It would be preferable to replace them with new silent mechanisms in the RSC3.

SH3 has a better SPEC than SC3.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/oDwHRuH2jsSurRkp7


skywalker

Queue99

Thanks so much for the details and clarifications, will have a detailed look at my unit this weekend, but guess it is anyway better to upgrade to the new system.

Just need to find a way to get one shipped to the US. Will see a Yamaha store on Saturday - maybe they can find a source… otherwise they seem to be available in Germany.


Dirk

Queue99

Hi there,

In the Netherlands Yamaha sells the VSC3 but not the RSH3. Can you explain the difference in components in the 2 sets like:

  1. Mute rail
  2. Sensor rail
  3. Control unit
  4. Other things?

Thanks!

Regards,

Dirk Appel

The Netherlands


skywalker

Dirk from what I understand there are slight differences in the control unit (see listing here) with regards to the number of included instruments/sounds. The RSC3 seems to be to retrofit pianos without a previous silent system installed, the VSH3 is for existing silent pianos thus does not include the mute rail. The sensor system seems to both electromagnetic (the link above says optical but then electromagnetic below). I bought the VSH3 to retrofit an old M100 model with optical silent system and definitely is the latest elector magnetic rail.

Search for ‘Yamaha SC3 vs SH3’ and you will find some Yamaha shop links with more information. You can also call a Yamaha shop for more info. I live in the US but got my unit from Piano Ebert in Konstanz Germany.

Vincent Muck was super helpful and savy.

Vincent Muck

www.musik-ebert.de

MUSIK-EBERT GmbH

Hussenstr. 45-49

78462 Konstanz

Tel. [+49(0)7531/1360-71](tel:+49(0)7531/1360-71)

Fax [+49(0)7531/1360-70](tel:+49(0)7531/1360-70)

Email: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])

Hope that helps!


Queue99

Mr Skywalker is correct. Install the RSC3 on Yamaha pianos that do not already have silent unit.

I can send you an RSC3 if you would like me to.


painano

Hello, I am new to the forum, found it while searching for piano silent systems.


painano

I tried to mention Mr. Queue99 but it seems I don’t have the permission for @ / mentioning a user.


painano

OK I just found out about the limitations for newbies. 😀


painano

Sorry to spam here, but I need to post 5 messages to get rid of newbie status.


CyberGene

painano the limitation stays for the first 24 hours even after 5 posts but I removed it manually for you.




painano

@RIP thanks for mentioning this, I wrote @Queue99 already via email, but was not sure if he would react. That’s why I tried also via forum.


Queue99

painano

Sorry, I only log in occasionally, so I didn't notice.

I've already discarded all the keyboard sets.


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