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Studiologic Numa X Piano 73 Review

CyberGene

_sem_ it’s definitely lighter feeling than TP100/LR that I hate. I owned a SL73 with TP100/LR. The TP110 is not the best action out there but it is still very capable. It’s also one of the lightest actions in terms of total (travel) weight. I also prefer it over the Yamaha GHS.


David B

CyberGene Seems like both A and B continuous modes have different issues.

What's the difference between continuous A and B? What one do you use with the DP10 when playing piano? Was your issue completely resolved with the firmware update? Thanks.

God Bless,
David


CyberGene

David B I think they are meant for different voltage curves, so that they support different types of continuous pedals. After the latest update I use DP10 with Continuous A and it works well for both pianos and electric pianos. There’s no half-pedal on the electric pianos thought but the issue was that in A mode it would not always release the notes that were held and that’s now fixed.


David B

CyberGene After the latest update I use Continuous A

Yeah, I noticed that when I use Continuous B with the DP10 I get an erratic signal causing a sustain sometimes when the pedal is not pressed. The same thing the broken pedal was doing with my FP90X before I got it replaced. The new pedal works fine with the FP90X, but I do get this wired behavior with Continuous B on the Numa X. However, it goes away when Continuous A is selected. Thanks for helping me understand the difference.

God Bless,
David


Rustytwolegs

Hi CyberGene

I’ve just bought the xpiano 73. It sounds AWFUL!!!!😢 I don’t know if i need to adjust settings or something - I’ve tried turning off all the master effects and insert effects, string res etc etc. the piano sounds are just really “muddy” not bright, not clear. It’s as if there is reverb or delay on all of them. When the damper pedal is pressed it’s even worse. Ive downloaded the Numa player app and the sounds on this are 100 times better than what my keyboard is producing….. I don’t understand what’s going on….. I’ve contacted Studiologic and they haven’t suggested anything that (i believe) I haven’t already tried. I’m really disappointed at the moment. I’ve spent a lot of money on this keyboard and i feel really let down by it…….. is there anything you can suggest that i try ? The app editing seems a lot more straight forward than the UI on the keyboard - i am missing something????

Any ideas would be massively appreciated……….. Russell

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CyberGene

Rustytwolegs Hi Russell. Here are a few things:

  • How do you listen to the piano? Headphones, speakers? Have you tried with another pair to see if it helps
  • Have you tried restoring the piano to the factory settings just in case? Maybe there are some touch settings, or EQ or just some mess with the settings, or even a bug?
  • Have you installed the latest OS?
  • Have you tried all possible piano models? There are optional ones that you can download from their website, there's one Yamaha that I like
  • There's one video on YouTube (search for it) where a guy demonstrates how to tweak the Vintage grand with some EQ, etc. to make it sound good, some people swear by these settings.
  • Have you tried changing the touch response?
  • Have you experimented with the EQ?
  • After all, the acoustic pianos in the Numa are not my favorite either. It's a great gigging instrument, when you consider the weight/size/price/features but I wouldn't use it as my main instrument at home, nor it is good for classical music. IMO, it's better suited for modern genres.

Hope that helps.


CyberGene

P.S. Also, disconnect any USB cables for a moment. There can be a MIDI and/or USB Audio loopback, so you should eliminate it by disconnecting any external devices and cables.


TheJoker

I seriously can’t understand all the hate about the Numa x piano sound. I’ve had the CP88, the nord stage 3, Montage 7, MODX 7, P-45, P-125, Roland FP-30, Psr sx900… just to name a few. And I honestly think the sound coming from my monitors tuned to the Numa x sound actually good and on par with those listed above. I mean we all hear differently, have different gears, different size of room but IMO, the sound out of this Numa x is fantastic.


Guin0416

Hi CyberGene,

Just received the NumaX73 recently. Your review helped me make the decision to purchase and so far I'm very pleased with it. However, so far I haven't been successful at using it as a MIDI controller. I'm not getting any sound output. I've tried both iPad and MacBook. I know the piano is communicating because the virtual keys on the screen are moving based on what I'm playing on the piano. Also, I can hear it when I plug headphones into the iPad but not when I plug headphones into the Numa. Gianni has been offering suggestions (and is very quick to respond, which I'm impressed with) but so far nothing is working. Just wondering if you had to do any special configurations, or should it just be plug and play?

Thank you!


CyberGene

Guin0416 Hi and welcome.

What app are you controlling on your iPad, is it a synth, a DAW (e.g. Logic Pro)? My first suggestion is to open the settings of that app and explicitly select the Numa as audio output device. Because if you hear the sound through the iPad headphones, then it means the iPad is selected as an audio device and you can have only one audio device at a time: either the iPad, or the Numa.


Guin0416

CyberGene

Thanks so much for your rapid response - so I just figured it out. Turned out to be embarrassingly simple- the USB audio on the assignable knob was set to off. I've just had this board for about a week and I'm excited about really testing its capabilities and bringing it to band practice for the first time. Like I said- your review was a big influence on my decision to make the purchase. There's not many 73's out there with weighted action - at least in this price range.


VSThost

Most importantly it is class-compliant - no additional software and don't forget a solid MIDI support. It allows for nice hybrid setups with computer based systems.


Guin0416

Anyone know if you can change the note range when doing splits on the Numa? For example, can you split the keyboard in half and have both halves in the same range?


CyberGene

Guin0416 I think it should be possible by using the octave transposition of the zones but I have to test it to confirm.


PeteTheGreek

I can confirm CyberGene's reply - I tested and verified that with a split you CAN use the octave shift up or down on any of the 4 parts. Another use case would be to LOWER one of left-sided splits (for example if you needed to play a note that does not exist on the 73 key keyboard! This came up at a gig this week).


CyberGene

Studiologic have silently released a new free piano sound that can be uploaded to the Numa X piano and it’s a Steinway D! What is more, it’s their largest library so far at 360 MB, compared to the previous downloadable pianos at 93 MB, so it’s almost four times larger. I’ve just installed it and played a bit with it and I can certainly say it’s their best piano so far, it’s much better than any of their existing piano sounds for the Numa X. That’s just unbelievable! Very playable and balanced, with a great dynamic range and timbre variation, sparkling and spacious treble, deep and velvety bass. Sure, it’s not comparable to software pianos but I’d say it’s a great step forward for Numa owners 👏🏻

https://studiologic-music.com/products/numa_x_piano/sounds/

I only noticed a noisy attack in one of the velocity layers of the middle G note. I will contact Gianni, hopefully they can fix it.


CyberGene

I just got a reply from Gianni that the team is going to check the faulty sample and confirmed that the new sound library was actually posted by mistake and is not yet finalized which is why they haven't announced it and why it may still be unpolished. But other people are also blown away by the Steinway D, it's certainly their best piano so far. Kudos to Studiologic!


Guin0416

CyberGene Awesome can’t wait to try it out


Guin0416

Did Studiologic pull the Steinway patch? It’s great to have a guy like Gianni to reach out to. He’s very responsive.


CyberGene

Guin0416 yes, it was posted by mistake and they pulled it out. Unfortunately I deleted it from my computer and it’s only uploaded to the Numa. However, it will be officially released in a few weeks according to Gianni.


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