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Little experiment

navindra

HZPiano Definitely 1 for me. 2 feels wrong somehow.


RIP

@navindra and @HZPiano please vote so we can count.

HZPiano Curious to find out what you're up to with this

In due time not to spoil the test and the surprise

MacMacMac Clips? What clips?

Don't you see a clickable logo of headphones? Clips will play upon clicking them


dore_m

I feel like 2 is behind the beat a bit, and I prefer it.


HZPiano

RIP In due time not to spoil the test and the surprise

Of course!

I did already vote, by the way.

Cheers and have fun,

HZ


MacMacMac

The clips don't show up in Chrome. But when I open in Firefox, there they are.

CG wizard: Whuzzup with that?


RIP

MacMacMac The clips don't show up in Chrome. But when I open in Firefox, there they are.

CG wizard: Whuzzup with that?

Weird. They show just fine to me in Chrome Version 109.0.5414.74 (Official Build)

HZPiano I did already vote, by the way.

Ah, I just noticed that I said to not reveal the results of the polls to viewers, of which I am one, so even I don't see who (or how many) have voted.

@CyberGene after a couple of days have passed, please close the poll and reveal the results.


CyberGene

MacMacMac The clips don't show up in Chrome. But when I open in Firefox, there they are.

Do you see the rectangles with the links in the first post or are they completely missing in Chrome? Or is it when you click on them and they open in a new tab that it’s not working on Chrome? Because if it’s the latter, it’s not the forum, those are some external links. But in both cases check whether a browser extension/plug-in might be blocking it.


As to the poll, I voted for 2, it’s slightly (but not definitely) better for me. Has better perceived spatial location to me, maybe due to more reverb and/or better mix panning and/or better piano miking (virtual or actual). The first one is somehow dry and too in the middle, or something like that.


MacMacMac

I chose #1.

There was no download button, so I had to listen on the computer speakers.
Had I been able to download then I'd have listened on a better audio system.
Perhaps my choice would have been different?

UPDATE: I found a way to send the audio from Firefox to my DAC and monitors. I still choose #1.

As for "where's the clips" ...

This is in Chrome:

I do have an ad blocker, but I turned it off.


kawafanboi

worked in chrome for me, not in firefox, adblocker/ scriptblocker.

sound the same to me. wouldn't be able to differentiate casually without tools.


navindra

MacMacMac Yep, still Number 1 for me as well. It's not a maybe. 2 is just off and feels wrong.

Looking forward to your explanation of this experiment @RIP.


Joannchr

RIP Clip 1 sounds better to me. A bit sweeter but the volume slightly higher of Clip2 might contribute to that.


QuasiUnaFantasia

They sound rather similar to me, but the piano sound in both was not really my cup of tea. Maybe it's the style of music though.


Khuja Wangtishvili

On my cheap samsung earbuds clip 2 sounds better, or rather I like better due to piano being more dark. Will test on my AKG at home (the are very dark phones)


RIP

navindra Looking forward to your explanation of this experiment @Del Vento.

A see a couple of folks still saying "will listen again" and I want to give some time to people who may have missed it, but I think majority of the most active members commented already, so not a long time, perhaps 12-24 hours and then I'll reveal.


MHirsch

I can't listen to the clips, always getting an error 224003. On any device, any browser.


Khuja Wangtishvili

On my akg they sound almost literally the same. I am lost now.


kawafanboi

when is the reveal ? 🤓


RIP

Alright, so since a few folks got confused let me give the final hint: this is about the MUSIC, not the SOUND.

The two clips are supposed to be the same sound (if not it's an artifact of the transformation), but with so-slightly editing which should have changed the MUSICAL appealing from one clip to the other.

In about 11 hours I will reveal what's all about (now it's my evening: I'll do it my tomorrow morning).

@Khuja Wangtishvili they are indeed supposed to sound the same, concentrate on the music -- and it may well be that they are the same for you.

@MHirsch sorry no idea about that, perhaps you have a firewall in your network?

@QuasiUnaFantasia @Joannchr @MacMacMac @CyberGene try ignoring the piano sound or perceived spatial location (which might be artifacts of the musical editing) and see if musically they sound any different to you.


Joannchr

after re-listening, it sounds like if there was 2 different takes of the same passage as the swing feels slightly different in the 2 wav files, even though it might be an illusion. This also demonstrates the poor short term auditive aural memory capacity of the human ear which is below 4 seconds.


CyberGene

RIP try ignoring the piano sound or perceived spatial location (which might be artifacts of the musical editing) and see if musically they sound any different to you.

I see. Well, I listened to them many times side by side, I hear absolutely no difference. I voted "equally bad" only because I don't like the music, so it's not "good" for me but I don't mean there's anything wrong with it either.


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