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A brand new Steinway from VSL: 1887 model D concert grand

pianow

jiang

wow that's disturbing, i live in the middle east and everything we got has came directly from the company itself and most of them are fine, but seems like that's not the case in all the world,

anyway, the vsl is two streets away from lewitt's headquarters so i wouldn't worry about anything there lol 🙂


pianow

jiang Look, the price is one-third of that in the United States. This is a brand new item that has only been photographed, unlike those sealed ones which cost around $1,300. I can guarantee this microphone is genuine.This is why I find the current situation of this brand strange.

i get it, it feels weird, not gonna lie if i wanted to purchase anything that expensive i would jump on the older brands like neumann and such, even though i love lewitt


pianow

jdg78

this is it buddy 🙂 what do you think about the sound though?


David Lai

pianow Very vintage, and full of character.


David Lai

jdg78 Yep, and that's 10 years too late for una corda!!!


pipAT

This is Studio Series, not Synchron, keywords: dryer, tighter, cleaner.


pianow

OlivierW

you know i have zero tolerance for truth when i'm excited about something right?


jiang

I also noticed that this time they can directly order a 30-day free trial license on the official website. This means I can use it until Black Friday before purchasing this library.



CyberGene

Wow, this is something now. The demos are great and the video comparing the 1887 Steinway vs the new one is amazing, I so much prefer the softer tone of the vintage piano compared to the bright and hollow (even nasal) new piano. And una corda finally sampled! Could be my first VSL piano! ❤️


David Lai

CyberGene Congratulations!!! I felt the same way!!! If they decide to tweak the Vienna Assistant app, I might give this vintage Steinway a try.


CyberGene

David Lai I haven’t bought it yet and I’m not in the market for a new virtual piano at all, so I doubt I will buy it soon. But if I was choosing a VSL piano, this would be it.


clavierhaus

OlivierW The sound itself is warm, but you can tell this Steinway isn’t perfectly restored and regulated.

That's complete nonsense - I should know because I am the owner and I am not completely clueless when it comes to perfect preparation of a concert grand.


OlivierW

I just tried it — the dynamics feel more realistic and better balanced by default than the recent VSL Steinway D-274. It has a beautiful, very “Hamburg” sound — congratulations to the tuner and the technician who prepared the piano, they did a great job.

However, the playability of the resonances doesn’t feel real, and their “sympathetic resonance” option still doesn’t work properly — it’s basically fake and sounds terrible when enabled. The sustain and sympathetic resonances aren’t really simulated at all, just long sustain samples that don’t allow for true repedaling behavior within the resonance.

In short, it’s interesting in the demos, but when you actually play it, it still lacks the realism and responsiveness of instruments like the Modern D. This piano could have been excellent if VSL had made the effort to properly program the behavior and resonance of a real piano — at the level of the UVI interface by VI Labs, like the Modern D or Modern U. Beautiful work from the technician, but not from VSL’s software team.

It has a genuine Hamburg tone, but the software simulation is disappointing — and in 2025, that’s difficult to accept given how far competitors like VI Labs and NI (Galaxy, Noire, etc.) have advanced in terms of programming realism.

I will improve it with my Soluce : VSL + PIANOTEQ 9 resonance (SR and repedalling an Sustain) . sonne my logic file


clavierhaus

OlivierW you can clearly tell the hammers are worn out.

You sound like a real expert - which unfortunately you are not.

The hammers are brand new replicas by Abel and the voicing of them is simply outstandingly beautiful, because I afforded myself the luxury of hiring a real concert technician for the project.


OlivierW

But my thoughts go to the excellent technician who prepared and tuned this piano, and to the engineer who selected the velocity layers — great work from them. And the excellent Sampling .

As for the rest, the software and the player itself are disappointing compared to VI Labs’ solutions. And yet, I have many ideas to help improve VSL’s software, especially now that tools like ChatGPT can speed up development.

I really don’t understand why the sympathetic resonance simulation still doesn’t work properly, and why there’s still no true sustain repedaling — especially when compared to the competition.

Regards,

Olivier F.


OlivierW

clavierhaus Please read my post again 🙂 I’m actually agreeing with you — so let’s just stay cool, polite, and humble.


pianow

clavierhaus

i wanted to say thanks for the instrument and of course preparation, to my ears subjectively this is the best vsl piano to date, i love the sound and the mic choice, everything 🙂


QuasiUnaFantasia

clavierhaus Congratulations on having your piano be the basis for a new virtual instrument! I guess it might make sense, for those of us trying to forecast VSL's new offerings, to pay attention to which pianos you have taken under your wing. 🙂


clavierhaus

OlivierW read again my post

I did and it still says "you can clearly tell the hammers are worn out.".


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