My Desert Island Piano VST - VI Labs Modern D

pianow I am many years late here, but the noise in garritan and vsl are easily managable if you use the correct tools and techniques

locture Well, they've reduced the noise on Modern D, so all good.

David Lai VILabs does an excellent job managing noise in the 1.1 update. But even if they didn't (like in Garritan), users could still get rid of those noise by themselves. It's a fairly easy job through a dynamic EQ.

locture dynamic eq will hurt resonances and release tails unless the noise has very narrow frequency range.

Vlad Every denoise process does this, it's unavoidable. Using the dynamic eq wisely (i.e. as expander than compressor) can minimize the risk.

Hey all...I just bought the noire VST and am having problems EQing it to sound the way I want. Reading and watching reviews of the modern D gives me some FOMO but i'd love to be able to hear one of my songs done with the modern D (just the basic preset) so I can compare it to the noire before dropping $250 more bucks...

is that a thing that people do here who have the VST? it would be much appreciated (i'm obviously brand new as a poster). or should I be posting this somewhere else?

file is in this google drive folder https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qf3pZD2BYd-u7DE7JctDkw6qhbD6EFYT?usp=sharing and the folder is editable so if you did the rendering you could drop the mp3/wav right there

thanks,

-mark

Mark Johnson and in case anyone is interested, in the google drive there is a mp3 of the noire version ('basic pure' preset and to be fair, does have some EQ/effects added in logic as well as some tweaks to the noire settings beyond the default settings from the 'basic pure' preset)

Mark Johnson Hi Mark, and welcome to the forum.

I made a version, I just don't know how to drop it into your shared folder, so it's here for you for a limited time. Let me know if you've downloaded it.

I used the "all around clean" preset, and you're hearing the close position, the U87 mics.

Good luck,

David

David Lai - Thank you so much!

I REALLY appreciate you doing that (and so quick!).

And wow sounds great...It will be interesting for me to now be able to compare sound for sound on my own (rough) performance!

Gratefully,

-Mark

Hello,

@Mark Johnson In case it is of any interest to you, I once made this thread:

#334

That was over four years ago, I don't use nor have Noire anymore, so I'm afraid I can't answer any specific questions about it anymore.

Noire is fun, however (if the source piano fits your preferences) VI Labs' quality is several levels better.

Cheers!

HZ

Mark Johnson I put in some files in your share and also put David's rendition in a folder with his name.

One of the files is Noire with my settings, can you guess which?

Now that you have all these files, can you rank them?

dikrek emailed you before I saw forum post, so this is a copy of my reply:

Oh wow thanks Dimitris for all those versions. Now I am really curious which VIs these are. 🙂

My gut reaction thoughts to the versions:

phoebe 1 - very pure sounding piano with some resonance and brightness (i like more than 3)

phoebe 2 - i like more than 1, still has character but less resonance and a mellowness (i'm guessing this is Noire. I think one thing that might have given it away was the pianist noise, which I THINK I recognize, but I also just like this one sonically

Phoebe 3 - bright, resonant, “hollow”?

Phoebe 4- i think i like this one second best to phoebe 2. mellow (perhaps on the muddy side but i realize that could be over pedaling)

So in order, my preference:

2,4,1,3 

HZPiano Very cool, I'm going to check that out. Thanks! I'll take any help I can get.

Interestingly I am coming around to the sound of the Noire (I do think I like it's 'character') but getting it right certainly seems like it's a finicky beast, like a high performance vehicle you have to tinker with to get juuuust so.

But also good to get your opinion that the D is several levels better.

I think Noire is great as it is lightweight and flexible, allowing for easy colour adjustments from warm to bright while playing live. I enjoy adding a bit of shimmer for atmospheric and lush sounds. Recently, I discovered the Waves CLA-76, which helps bring the piano forward, especially when layering with synths like Omnisphere.

Interesting, thanks. I will bookmark this to look into.

Hello everyone, does anyone use the Moder D with a Kawaii ca 701 or 901? I would need the correct velocity curve for the GF3 keyboard. Thanks in advance for any help.

robertgrze

I'd be interested in that as well 🙂.

Cheers,

HZ

HZPiano

And what one are you using at the moment, the default one?

robertgrze

Hi,

I'm considering (on and off) a CA701 later this year or next year.

I'm currently still using my FP-10 and Modern U 🙂. Not bad at all, so I'm interested but not in any particular hurry.

Cheers!

HZ

HZPiano

If you don't mind, I have another request. I currently have three upright vst. Modern U, The Gentleman, and Ivory upright. I don't like Ivory at all. Surprisingly, I play best on The Gentleman. I'm trying to warm up to modern U because I know it's technically much better, but the sound is too perfect for me; I feel like I'm playing a piano. I assume that since you've been using modern U for so long, you have some nice settings. If it's not a problem, maybe you could share them.