Pete14 The MD can’t hold a candle to a’ Ph.D. (Pete’s Huge D)
There is lots of evidence to support the virtues of the Modern D, but nothing to support the Ph. D you speak of. I wonder if this is a case of wishful thinking? 😀
God Bless,
David
P.S. Don't feel too bad Pete. You have a good personality and girls are always looking for more friends to talk to. 😉
David B There is lots of evidence to support the virtues of the Modern D, but nothing to support the Ph. D you speak of. I wonder if this is a case of wishful thinking?
I assure you, Pete’s D is huge; hence the moniker: Ph.D. (Pete’s Huge D)…..😊
Yes, some have questioned its hugeness (or that it even exists), but I will soon be releasing PHD if only to crush that puny MD!
wow that's a long hate_story there (about the concert d)
but i fully agree that it's not the best recorded/sampled piano out there, however there are certain things you can do to improve this, like a soft but deep compression (2.0 ratio and -25db threshold for example - you can always go further with it) i think this trick can bring out so much color and realism to the sound, i mean i've never been able to hear the exact differences between the microphones, yes some of them are bright and some are dark, but that's not really the case about mic positions especially when you have 10 different mics to choose from, with the compression applied, you can immediately hear the most important thing about every mic pos, for example the side/mid mics have a lot of cabinet resonance baked in which is impossible to hear by default, and the close mics are truly different to each other, you don't have to mix all three together to sound good, every one of them is capable of giving you a full musical experience, in the matter of fact, mixing several close mics is a worse case scenario especially for synchrons, (anyway that compression technique is something most audio engineers do to get all the richness that a piano offers, maybe not so deep but still)
about voicing now… those clicks are some kind of side effect of how sharp this piano been voiced, the hammers are prepared to pierce through metal really, and that's because they (vsl) wanted to deliver the most dynamic experience with a virtualized piano, personally can't say they have failed.
anyway i'm not saying it's the best piano out there, and it definitely isn't my personal favorite, i just wanted to say that you absolutely can get something good out of it, because in the end of the day, it's a very expensive product.
David B This is not a problem on all of their pianos, but I did inquire when I noticed it on my Bosendorfer Imperial. I sent VSL recordings of the issue and I was surprised by their response. They basically said it's the nature of the piano or something like that. I can't quite remember. There was no admission that it was actually a sampling error which I think it is.
i was so disappointed by their bosenforfer imperial pedal behavior, the sustain pedal basically cuts everything below mezzo piano, and with a little compression applied, the sustain pedal becomes significantly louder, this is the reason i never bought it, even though it's my ideal SOUNDING piano, what i shame 🙁
I've just picked up Modern-D in their sale and am extremely impressed with the realism and detail of this library. This piano has taken my number one spot for when I need as realistic and authentic piano sound and playability that I can get.
I love the layout, workflow and feature set of this library and find it extremely intuitive to use. I'm still new to it so will keep experimenting with all the various parameters but so far this library sounds and feels the closest to a real piano as I've found in a sample library including the VSL Synchron libraries that I tried!
dickiefunk Happy new year! Glad you are enjoying Modern D. It is my favorite virtual piano to play when I can't access an acoustic one, so it really lives well to its reputation.
Happy New Year to you as well David. Yes this is what I’ll reach for when I’m not at a real grand.
A new review:
Jose EB5AGV Finally Mr. Sam is reviewing Modern D!!!
so he liked it too huh? what a surprise haha
Another review here. It sounds like there's a lot of love for this library.
I've been playing the Modern-D for the past week and my only criticism is the fortissimo's sound a little muted and lack a little brightness? Has anyone else found this?
dickiefunk I believe it's the piano itself. It's not as bright as Hamburg D's. But I find the very loud notes to be harsh enough for my taste. You can certainly use EQ, or use hammer and close mics to get that sharp tone you're looking for.
Yes I'm experimenting with this to try and dial in the sound I'm after.
I would love Vi-Labs to sample a CFX or Hamburg Steinway of the same quality as Modern-D. At the moment Noire will be fine but I'm really appreciating the extra realism details Modern-D has.
Oh that is a very nice and no-nonsense reviewer, thanks for posting! Quite a while ago, he positively reviewed the VPC1 as well.
Cheers,
HZ
in the past i also have met a lot of pianos that sounded like that
my solution is to apply subtle saturation/distortion with a little eq boost (both on the higher frequencies), it brightens up the piano without any harm.
Thanks. Would you be able to give me more detail on how you do this please?
