My Desert Island Piano VST - VI Labs Modern D

pianow

Modern U and Modern D share the same excellent style of user interface. Modern D introduces a few handy newer elements still.

The three TrueKeys pianos and Ravenscroft 275 have the older style.

Cheers and happy tweaking,

HZ

OlivierW

Yes… I remember now that I also ran into that problem months ago when installing Modern U in my M1 mac. But I don't really remember how I solved it. The puzzling thing is that many people seem to not have any problem, and VILabs does not address this in their installation notes… Maybe people with older installations of previous VSTs versions don't suffer from this.

OlivierW

just ordered it i could compare with another video : hope i will not be disapointed. (no demo version…)

Currently download the library….

I am glad I returned the VSL Concert-D 274, because I was not able to get to like it, and this one seems to be the opposite!. I have not yet bought it because of money constraints (damn regional government is holding a payment to me), but will eventually do as soon as some fresh money arrives 😃

Hello,

@OlivierW

@vagfilm

I'm not much at home with Apple, yet I believe there is an "M1 Native" separate download from VI Labs. It may(!) be that the library download isn't diversified but I bet the one for the UVI Workstation is. Herein may lay the solution.

If not, do contact VI Labs directly, surely they'll help you, @OlivierW .

Cheers and best of luck,

HZ

HZPiano no i've found the solution. Currently download the 18 GB.

I could post first demo late in the night

Hope i will not be disapointed

OlivierW make sure you test all the factory presets and start from there. Because some are too nasal and weird. Mine is based on something that sounded like “player full resonance”.

CyberGene

can you share your preset ? i will try it with pleasure 🙂

OlivierW

can't wait for the demos

OlivierW can you share your preset ? i will try it with pleasure 🙂

I’m at work and the preset is on my personal MacBook, however it seems I saved it on the desktop and it is synced through iCloud and appears on my iPhone but I can’t attach it directly, so I zipped it… Whether all that works, not sure. Here it is:

It includes a modified touch response for N1X (with its touch response at the default level). Also includes modified half-pedaling values to suit the N1X. I think you have N1X too? If not, revert those.

porco_rosso I never felt connected to the VSL instruments while playing them

the strange thing about vsl is that even their close mics lack warmth and roundness, and that lack of warmth is quite extreme and weird, I've heard recordings with only a pair of u87s under the lid that sounded complete, flawless, captured all the roundness without losing a tiny bit of clarity, but vsl close mics are a different story, especially with their steinway and yamaha, thin, bright, cold, ane the most important and disappointing: not close enough.

i love their bosendorfers, especially the imperial, it's the best synchron piano imo, the second and third places belong to the 280vc and 130u

all three of them are warm and realistic.

Jose EB5AGV I am glad I returned the VSL Concert-D 274

i wish i could sell it too, I don't even play it as much as the pianoteq demo these days

CyberGene great ! and thanks

yes, i've a N1X. and i love it 🙂

vagfilm Yes… I remember now that I also ran into that problem months ago when installing Modern U in my M1 mac. But I don't really remember how I solved it. The puzzling thing is that many people seem to not have any problem, and VILabs does not address this in their installation notes… Maybe people with older installations of previous VSTs versions don't suffer from this.

I ran into the exact same problem, and it took me almost an hour to figure it out. Basically, before downloading you need to make sure the folder you try to download it to has permissions set to "read and write" for all users. To do this you need to right click on the folder, select "get info," then go to the "Sharing & Permissions" tab at the bottom of the menu and make sure everyone has privileges set to "read and write."

It seems that newer Macs have this setting set to "read only" be default so anyone trying to download on a Mac will run into this problem.

They really should mention this in the download instructions because I have a feeling they are going to get tons of complaints from Mac users claiming that they can't download the files.

jdg78 for MODERN D, just have to go tho security menu in mac M2/sequoia settings (open anyway)

OlivierW for MODERN D, just have to go tho security menu in mac M2/sequoia settings (open anyway

Yes, you also have to do that in order to open the initial installation software.

But I also found I had to format the specific download location or else it would give me an error message saying that the folder I was trying to download to does not have writing capabilities.

For whatever reason, VI Labs is not a “trusted developer” so Macs will automatically treat anything from them as suspicious unless you override it.

I guess there's no change in policy regarding demo licenses?

johanibraaten I guess there's no change in policy regarding demo licenses?

Splendid point!

Please take note, @VILabs !

Cheers and happy friendly policies,

HZ

Just try it :

love it

near perfect but wrong SR simulation between pedal down and up :

in a real piano ;

in pedal down : play silently CHORD C and play others C/E/G staccato

release pedal Down to up while still holding down your c chord :

in a real piano and Pianoteq you still the SR resonance of undamped C CHORD, but in this MODERN D, resonance between keys doesn't work if the pedal down was down before change it to up with undamped keys . (only up)

So i will use MODERN D (the best sampled STENWAY D ) with Pianoteq 8 Resonances to have the right SR resonance behaviour between PEDAL down and up transition.

The MODERN D is very good : i love it. Demos soon

love it out of the box with my N1X set to velocity 1 to have the full range midi information à to 127

Buy This Steinway : well tuned and sound like a Steinway : real

Better than Ivory 3

Regards,

Olivier F.

OlivierW near perfect but wrong SR simulation between pedal down and up :

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OlivierW So i will use MODERN D (the best sampled STENWAY D ) with Pianoteq 8 Resonances to have the right SR resonance behaviour between PEDAL down and up transition.

And here, Pete doesn’t know what he’s talking about…..

Yes, I showed myself out (of your party) yesterday, but I’m assuming the party’s over by now?

So, now that most of you spent $200 on yesterday’s binge, I wonder if it’s time to get a little bit objective, and tone down the hyperbole, “it’s the best thing since sliced bread,” because just the day before yesterday, according to Pianow & friends, there was nothing better under the sun than VSL, yet along comes Modern D……….

Yes, David’s renditions sound great, so kudos to him, but I wonder, is it possible that the Modern D might not necessarily be the holy grail? (just asking, so please don’t let your unchecked emotions get the best of you).