VSL Bosendorfer 280VC (my dearest🤍)

pianow · 2024-09-11T16:20:54+00:00

all of you people know that i adore this piano, i never shut up about it😁😁 but today I'm gonna tell you WHY i love it so much, starting with the pros: it is truly 3 dimensional, the attack is not a simple volume pick, you can hear (and even feel it with your body when playing with studio monitors) that the attack rings through the soundboard and not just that, it does that in the most realistic and convincing way, it's beautiful. i saw some people comparing the highs of the 280vc to the pianoteq💀 it's not fair to this (280) piano, dare i say it has the best highs among all virtual pianots, it's as real as it gets. the thing that sells it for me is how full it sounds, i always start playing a new piano by playing a Cmaj chord with medium pressure, with the most virtual pianos, it sounds empty and bodyless, even one of my favourites (vsl lmperial) does this to a certain point although it's so much better then most pianos but not the 280vc, the moment i played that chord on the 280vc i was like : 🤯🤯🤯 it was unbelievably full and warm. the playability: next generation, you heard that right, it plays like a Lamborghini, better then all virtual pianos even some of the vsl own pianos (after the 280vc, vsl is doing the same with their newer pianos, the f308 and f212 also have most of these qualities, it's just that I don't really like the tone of the faziolis but I'm keeping an eye out for newer Pianos with the same quality from them) another pro is how this thing handles a mix or an arrangement, you can put it in any mix and it doesn't desolve like the d274, it doesn't get drowned like the cfx, and it doesn't get unrealistically forward like the f308, it stays where you want it to.. but sometimes it offers too much body for the song and you might wanna cut some low frequencies out to be able to put it where you want. the cons (yeah there's some flaws and this is a honest review so I'm pointing those out as well😁) first, the Highest velocities are somewhat unpleasant to my ears, so bright and brutal (sometimes you may need them but i don't) i like the fff range of the imperial so much better the imperial fortissimos unfold so beautifully and it's to be expected considering how big the stage A is, it lets the piano breathe so heavily, the 280vc on the other hand is much narrower in that range, the character of the tone doesn't open up like the imperial, that's not a flaw of course, that's how these pianos are recorded. the other con (this is really bothering me) is the E3 and E#3 those notes have so much nasality to them, to the point that they can ruin a chord when they're in it, I'm exaggerating of course but they're not pleasant at all, i wish vsl would fix them third flaw, it doesn't let me buy more pianos, it's like whatever I'm gonna buy after this gorgeous piano will be a downgrade, i feel trapped😭 i like how the imperial sounds but the 280vc is better in lots of ways, i can convince myself thay i need another piano (untill vsl release another beauty like this one and evdn better) another point (it's not a flaw or a pro or anything but a personal experience) i feel like most effects work better on the 280vc (due to its full and rounded sound) then the stage a pianos and the uprights (and i don't like how the effects work with the bluthner or fhe New f212 so basically i think it only works this fine with fhe 280) i was playing with unrealistic reverbs and delays (blackhole and raum and others) and none of the vsl offerings sounded as good as the 280, it was dreamy, i loved it so all in all, in today's market I'd only recommend two virtual pianos seriously, for production and studio use, and even playing : vsl 280vc for playing everything and some studio work : vsl imperial

pianow

David Lai

you're doing great buddy, selling that shit is a good choice, even the full version is disappointing sometimes (quite unnatural and over processed, boomy and sharp at the same time) and considering i payed 350 euros for this, makes it such a fwaking insult, I waited a year to be able to get it, and it was one of the worst digital experiences I've ever had.

David Lai

pianow Hi friend. I'm curious, how come I not able to send you private messages? I've only tried this on David B. Does it mean that not everone has the private message feature activated?

Thanks for solving the puzzle.

pianow

jdg78

thanks for the help man❤️ means a lot
i once tried to get a second hand license from vsl and it was a complicated bullshit, especially because my family are gonna buy it for me in the uk (there's no straight way to purchase something like that from this part of the middle east) so i can't really do that

David Lai

pianow Hmm, then what should I do? I guess the next person who end up getting my license will be a second-hand license.

jdg78

David Lai

I replied to you via private message re: how to sell your license, so please check there. In terms of price, VSL sells the D-274 standard library for $285 and around $200 when it's on sale, so I would guess somewhere between $150-$185 is probably reasonable. But it's hard to say for sure - it really depends on what someone is willing to pay at any given time.

Keep in mind that VSL also charges the seller a $50 fee for license transfers so you will need to deduct this from the final sale price.

jdg78

pianow i once tried to get a second hand license from vsl and it was a complicated bullshit, especially because my family are gonna buy it for me in the uk (there's no straight way to purchase something like that from this part of the middle east) so i can't really do that

Interesting... In my experience, when you purchase a license second hand, you pay the seller directly and then they handle all the logistics with VSL from there. All that you need to do is wait for an e-mail from VSL confirming they have transferred the license to your account, and then it's basically the same as if you bought it directly from them.

I'm not sure what country you are located in, but if you're able to get demo licenses from VSL, I don't see why there would be an issue with them transferring a license purchased from another seller.

pianow

jdg78 I'm not sure what country you are located in, but if you're able to get demo licenses from VSL, I don't see why there would be an issue with them transferring a license

actually the thing is i give my account to my mother at uk so she could buy the softwares i need (and she never trusts me with the online deals i find especially when they're from other people and not companies - typical mom, never trusts me with anything 😂), and then there's the paying methods, payapl and such stuff doesn't really work around here (my country) and that's why i cant get em myself, the demos are a completely different story, i can click on them when they're available and boom i can activate them on my ilok account and playing the shit out of it💀 (the whole problem here is payment methods)
you should visit middle east countries sometime😂 the rules round here are some of the shittiest in the whole world.

pianow

David Lai
it's a problem with me actually, and my situation, it's actually pretty damn simple for anyone else like you davy boy, as I'm sure the jdg74 already told you😀

jdg78

pianow and then there's the paying methods, payapl and such stuff doesn't really work around here (my country) and that's why i cant get em myself

Okay, gotcha. That makes more sense now. Anyway, sorry - that must be frustrating. At least you have family outside the country who can help you work around the restrictions a bit.

David Lai

pianow Ah I see. OK, thank you! It's my first time selling anything, especially digital stuff. Actually hesitation is why I'm delaying selling for so long. But I decided to take it from my iLock. It's time for it to go.

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