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pianow

David B I've felt some good synthetic leathers. Unfortunately, they are never as pleasing to me. They usually have an embossed grain pattern that seems fake. Kind of like Pianoteq. 😀

easy there buddy😂 even in the leather discussion you find a way to hate on pianoteq that's just f''ing does it for me😂

i'm kidding… it's amusing


Pete14

David B Do you like, don't like, or are you indifferent toward leather products?

I’ll be honest, I like the smell/look of leather, but not the way it feels (especially for a recliner); leather usually feels either too cold, or too hot/sticky to the touch; whereas, good old-fashioned “fabric” feels more neutral…IMHO!

BTW, I’ve seen some Jansen vinyl benches that look almost identical to the leather ones, so yes, some of these “synthetics” are getting close to replicating the real thing….

I beg thee, don’t distort my last line, “synthetics getting closer to the real thing,” into yet another pun at Pianoteq’s expense!


RIP

ClothEaredNincompoop How to incorporate that into a piano? Hmmm…
Pete14 Wow, a thread about leather (a bit odd, if you ask me)

IIRC the early pianos (fortepianos) had leather (rather than felt) covered hammers. So here you go!

Pete14 I’ll be honest, I like the smell/look of leather, but not the way it feels (especially for a recliner); leather usually feels either too cold, or too hot/sticky to the touch; whereas, good old-fashioned “fabric” feels more neutral…IMHO!

Agreed. In fact, in the rare occasions I buy a car, the first thing that I check is for ones that do not have leather seats (which is hard in the USA, because instead of offering individual options, most brands offer "option packets" and you can't cherrypick what you want like I could in Europe 🙁). I find leather seats in a car totally unacceptable for the reasons you mention.


David B

RIP Agreed. In fact, in the rare occasions I buy a car, the first thing that I check is for ones that do not have leather seats

The best seats I ever had were leather seats in my 2004 Subaru Outback (L.L. Bean Edition). They were easy to clean and with the occasional leather conditioner they stayed supple until I sold the car in 2014.

God Bless,
David


HZPiano

CyberGene I love leather as a material, although I try to avoid it when possible since I'm a vegetarian.

I'm along these same lines. Vegetarian, using leather but only sparingly for those items where other materials just won't do (indeed, shoes).

The BBC has a fantastic program "The Repair Shop" where great craftspeople repair and restore heirlooms and other items with great sentimental value for their owners. One of the experts is a woman who is a saddle maker by trade but is magnificent in all kinds of leather work. It is an absolute joy to see how she revives and rejuvenates items and the leathers those are made of. In this sense, when owned and used with respect, leather is quite sustainable.

Cheers,

HZ


HZPiano

David B L.L. Bean Edition

Mr. Bean?!

😁

HZ


HZPiano

RIP leather seats

I've owned a '94 T-bird for about 20 years until it could go no more. It had a leather interior, which I wouldn't have opted for if possible, including for comfort reasons. However where I live Thunderbirds were nicher than niche, so only the most-LX model was imported. I did like the leather steering wheel and gear selector knob 🙂.

I once rented the exact same car in the US with textile seats and liked that a lot better.

As for the V8, I loved it to bits, however from feelings of environmental responsibility I found it hard to really utterly full-out love it. I started to divide my work travels between the Bird and train, to balance things out a bit.

Oh well. Nowadays I don't even own a car.

Cheers and happy nostalgia,

HZ


ClothEaredNincompoop

Nowadays they talk about "cruelty free" car interiors and everything is made of old plastic bottles and fishing nets.

But somebody could call fishing cruel. 😉

(Of course some leather is still used and also plant based materials.)


Johnstaf

Ostrich seems to be divisive. Most leather gives a sufficiently "sanitised" picture of its origins, but ostrich really looks like the skin of an animal.

I'm a vegetarian too, but I think leather can be beautiful. I remember looking at Hermès bags once and I thought the leather was stunning. I bought a bag elsewhere that was 1,000th of the price. I'd prefer to spend the money on drugs, booze, and gamblin'-even though I'm too boring to do any of that. 🤣


David B

Johnstaf Ostrich seems to be divisive. Most leather gives a sufficiently "sanitised" picture of its origins, but ostrich really looks like the skin of an animal.

I remember years ago I purchased a bible from one of my favorite Bible Publishers R.L. Allan (Glasgow, Scotland, now located in London, but still Scottish company). It was covered in "Highland Goatskin." It had a beautiful natural grain pattern, but I noticed a distinct mark in the leather that seemed out of place with the rest of the natural grain. I contacted R.L. Allan and was told that the natural hides sometimes show scars from where the animal got snagged on a barbwire fence.

I give a lot of bibles away as gifts and unfortunately I gave that one away. I wish I would have kept it because it had a very real uniqueness to it.

God Bless,
David


QuasiUnaFantasia

Bible Acquisition Syndrome?


David B

QuasiUnaFantasia Bible Acquisition Syndrome?

I've had more Acquisition Syndromes than I'd care to admit. 😳


David B

Found a nice man on Facebook that makes custom journal covers. He made this cover for my Moleskine Journal out of genuine ostrich leather. Matches my bible quite nicely.

The inside is made of lambskin just like my bible.

Love those bumps. 😎

God Bless,
David


Vlad

CyberGene I might have read somewhere that they market it as a proudly synthetic material that is good in itself without trying to imitate leather, so it's not Pianoteq but is rather a nice Moog synth

Pianoteq does not try to imitate sampled VIs, because there is no sense in imitating something worse :-)
Contrary to that, sampled VIs try to imitate a real piano, and suck big LOL!


CyberGene

Vlad Pianoteq does not try to imitate sampled VIs, because there is no sense in imitating something worse :-)

If you mean Pianoteq doesn’t imitate anything and is an instrument in its own, I whole heartedly agree 👍🏻 I’ve heard some people are using it as a cheap substitute to pianos but I guess they missed the point of it not trying to imitate anything (at least not hard enough) 🤣


MacMacMac

David B He made this cover for my Moleskine Journal out of genuine ostrich leather.

Ostrich leather! Just you wait until Greta hears about this!
She'll reverse course on her Palestine-bound boat and start a new mission: CONSERVE THE OSTRICH!


David B

MacMacMac Ostrich leather! Just you wait until Greta hears about this!
She'll reverse course on her Palestine-bound boat and start a new mission: CONSERVE THE OSTRICH!

Ostrich is significantly more environmentally friendly than cow. Let her go after the cows and leave my ostrich birds alone.


David B

Leather, leather, and more leather.

I got this leather book cover from a business out of Ukraine. Ordered on January 3rd and delivered today.
Here is the storefront on Etsy.

You can get these covers in different sizes or he can make a custom size for you. I'm very happy with the work. It's interesting to order from a business in a country at war right now.

Here is the book I'm going to put in it.

fits great.

Here is a collection of some other covers not from the same business, but a similar style. One is a smaller book that I like to carry around and my day planner. I still use an old school day planner. I have to write things down.

Love me some leather. 😎

God Bless,
David


MacMacMac

Beware!
Your leather comes at the cost of a murdered cow! 🙂
The vegans will come after you! 🙂
Greta Thunberg will be outraged! 🙂
(But you can remind her that one less cow means less cow flatulence ... which means less greenhouse gas.)

Hmmm ... this reminds me that I need a new wallet. And I have a birthday coming up.


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