My pianos 2.0 stable release

Gunther-D

What a super nice post, Gunther!

Heartwarmingly nice.

Cheers and best,

HZ

Gunther-D I signed up to this forum only to write this post.

Welcome and hope you'll stay for the rest

Gunther-D I've been a sound engineer for over 35 years, and recorded hundreds of classical concerts and solo artists.

Wow, what a pedigree! Do you have anything publicly available somewhere on the 'net just so we can get to know your work?

amc252 VST-Player I'm a beginner, and often keep the pedal down when I shouldn't. I too find that the 1.0 versions are easier on me because the resulting sound is less mudded. But if I just play the notes right, the 2.0 pedal down timbre is luscious. Anyway, it's nice that we have a choice.

This comment makes me think that v2.0 @Sofia_MZ is getting it right. Typical digital (and sometimes sw) pianos try to "make it easy" by having the pedal-down sound be nice even if you never release it. If you do that on an acoustic it becomes mudded. In fact there is some controversy on Beethoven's note on his sonata n.14 "Si deve suonare tutto questo pezzo delicatissimamente e senza sordino", meaning with always the pedal down, which is said by some of being impossible on the modern piano without becoming too mudded, whereas others say that he really intended the sound to be that mudded given the "chasms" of both the first and last movement

RIP This is great Now, when somebody complains that I never lift my feet from the pedal, I can retort that I'm playing 'Beethoven style'.

RIP It is good to have the choice between the two versions, it is a matter of taste. Hmm, I am an advanced pianist, not a beginner, and if I can trust my ears and headphones, the opposite is true about the sustain effect of the two releases. The sustain generated by Sforzando is more noticeable and, thus, more mudded than the samples in the 2.0 versions. So, when I play the 1.0 release I have to be more careful with the pedal than with the 2.0 versions.

[deleted] It is good to have the choice between the two versions, it is a matter of taste.

Quite right. While working on the 2.1 release (yep, how masochist a person can be?) I figured I'd leave the 1.0 version just on Sourceforge. But these posts made me change my mind, and I will include in my webpage links to make them more easily available to those who wish to download them.

The beauty of SFZ, and open source in general, if that it leaves plenty of room for personal preferences and customization.

It is remarkably easy to change the tuning, the timbre, the behavior of the samples, and even to shuffle them any way you like.

I'm talking about the with noise version, I notice it does not sounds noise during pedal up, but sounds during both pedal down. I suppose reason why, sfz containes 4 <master>, but only the last <master> is validated. I guess "#include" is good for this case.

I have the Aria player from Garritan CFX Lite and just found out that I can load and play Sofia's pianos in Aria. I just have to click into "preset" on top, then "load", select "any file type" and search for the sfz file I want to launch, Then I get the velocity map from Aria, and I also have better reverb presets.

Thanks.😊 Always I'm wondering if I should buy Garritan's CFX Lite, a little cheaper ( and lite + upgrade < full ) at pluginfox.com.

Any plan CFX will be added in Sofia's piano 2.1?

zeldalink Not sure what you mean by "adding CFX in Sofia's pianos". You can load CFX in Sforzando since SFZ is a precursor to / simplified version of Aria. But that would not really make sense. You get less functionalities You would want to upgrade not downgrade.

Maybe zelda meant to say "please sample a Yamaha CFX and make it the sixth piano in the Sofia collection" ?

Yes, that's what I wanted to say.

CFX's probably don't hang on trees in Italy. But since there are already fine sampled CFX's out there, why not wish for an Italian Borgato instead?

[deleted] My apologies. I thought I was looking a discussion about reverb and posted.

zeldalink My apologies. I thought I was looking a discussion about reverb and posted.

You are forgiven, but keep in mind that we do not take kindly to such digressions ‘round here…

Surely, your newbie status allows for some mistakes, but we are running a tight ship, and those falling out of line will be fed to the sharks!

Good day to you,

Pete XIV

Pete14 It is well for you to remind us simple peasants of the rules, your tightship!

But you are my Chief Mate, and not a ‘simple peasant’; or so I thought!

Perhaps it’s time we drop you off at the next port (Indonesia), so you can clear your mind and get your priorities straight.

I can’t have a Chief Officer running around thinking himself a peasant, for that will send a wrong message to the actual peasants on this ship!

Get it together, Sir!

Pete14 Drifted down from the far east, I am confused by the cultural differences. But anyway thank you for your forgiveness. Good night. no, Good day.

Bluthner sounds the best. That Fazioli probably was a so so one from the early period. ah no, it's 2020 actually.

zeldalink I noticed that it could be modified more easily. Just add one line of "<master>" as follows.

After this modification, the description of noise becomes the 5th "<master>" and does not depend on the state of the pedals. Conversely, before the modification, it was part of the 4th "<master>"(if both pedals are down).

I don't know if the resulting sound is appropriate for a piano or not. I don't know much about real pianos.

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<master>

<group> //Release Dampers

volume=-20

ampeg_attack=.005 ampeg_decay=60 ampeg_sustain=10 ampeg_release=0.8

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