Talk about the Woke

You should all have a look at what acdp wrote on PW in the "ban thread":
[http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/3162055/re-heads-up-about-banned-members.html#Post3162055]

MacMacMac

Agreed!

Perhaps you or others can explain a little to me since there are aspects to people today latching onto mainstream-media-manufactured lingo that further undermines the compromised counter culture ......“woke”. For starters, it comes off as poor grammar which i realize is popular especially with youngsters ( anyone under the age of 40 👴) , but there long has been a fine, suitable word - awake- that raises the question - what does woke bring to the table for those already awake .... or is this new catchphrase du jour mainly intended to signal belated rousing from slumbers?

This seems to be the event of the year at PW. Well, a scandal always sells well.... QuasiUnaFantasia, you're going to be famous😉 A real drama, with a lost hero, a hero who sets off on new adventures and a little hero (me) who is glad that the test of the troops didn't pull the wool over his eyes.

Drew-r I think those who self-annoint as "woke" are just using the word's implication of "formerly asleep" to serve the three fold purpose of:

1. proclaiming one's self to have arisen to a higher level of functioning that all others (those not yet awakened) have yet to attain, thereby massaging the speakers ego;

2. disguising the speaker's ego masturbation as merely a natural occurring event (waking up) as opposed to the narcissistic, contrived, theatrical self worship that it actually is;

3. stripping those so condemned as lesser beings (the unwoke) of any right to be angry over the woker's (should that be "wanker's) condescension by implicitly denying responsibility for the insult made in number 1 above, and by simultaneously showering the unwoke with feigned hope and optimism that one day the unwoke shall be blessed to also experience the supposedly completely fortuitous event of waking.

It is the ultimate expression of the unleashed narcissism of our age. It is the embryonic stage of the end of civilization. Every person is a genius and god unto himself. No others are recognized. No others are needed. Hence, civilization is unneeded.

There's lots of things that are hard to understand … like why are so many restaurants here running reduced seating and reduced hours for lack of staff, yet they cannot fill job openings despite offering $15 to $20 (where normal pay rates would be much less).

MacMacMac I think you know the answer to that. In many states unemployment insurance plus federal and state Covid relief pays better than working.

But I thought that the extra $600 per week ended the first week of September. Is that not so?

MacMacMac I thought it was extended.? You may be right about that. But from what

I’ve read (WSJ, FOX, etc.) it is still stated as a disincentive to taking a low paying job.

Maybe? But I don't keep up with the news.

OTOH … isn't it interesting that a thread about PW bans (for going off-topic) has gone off-topic … without the thread of any bans?

CyberGene I'm as "woke" as they come, but I don't think I ever reported anyone, except one time there was a rather disturbed rant against Chinese musicians. I don't think the mods took any action, even though it was pretty extreme stuff.

Johnstaf I'm as "woke" as they come, but I don't think I ever reported anyone, except one time

Well, generalizations are apparently wrong 😀 But I think as a general rule (yet another generalization) people who are Woke tend to “punish” people they consider “offenders” which is a knee-jerk response, rather than using more peaceful means or a reasonable discussion. If you confront them, they will justify that action by alleging that the peaceful way was attempted before and didn’t help (maybe with someone else). There are exceptions of course.

I think of "woke" as the condition of discarding traditional norms and accepting any new notion, rational or not, prudent or not, decent or not. So I therefore find it disturbing that people here are claiming to be woke. I find "woke" to be a terrible disease infecting modern minds.

The term “woke” is an American thing AFAIK. I personally use it (maybe incorrectly) about people who are overly sensitive about social causes such as LGBT rights, gender, race, ethnic minorities, etc. and would fiercely attack anyone who does not agree with them. It’s usually hard to debate because they don’t consider their point of view debatable. They consider it the only truth and thus it should be enforced.

Honestly, I think some people are just born to become fanatics about something, being it religion, pianos, social justice or anything else.

MacMacMac I reject many traditional norms, and my beliefs tend to align with current "woke" culture, but these beliefs are not new to me. My generation rejected the conservative Christian values of the country we grew up in. It took a while for the previous generation to become the minority, but the change happened a long time ago.

I can't edit my previous post. Is there a time limit?

CyberGene It's probably different in different parts of the world. To me, it's generally meant as an insult, aimed at people who are offended by everything, but I "own it". 😀

Edit period is 10 minutes. I can make it indefinite but maybe it’s not that good idea.

CyberGene it's also taken off in the UK. Ben Elton wrote a book about it a couple of years ago: Identity Crisis (2019). Quite hilarious. That's actually how I discovered the word even existed.

It certainly didn't exist in 2014 when I was living in San Francisco and Portland (a probably woke stomping ground).

burkey it's also taken off in the UK. Ben Elton wrote a book about it a couple of years ago: Identity Crisis (2019). Quite hilarious. That's actually how I discovered the word even existed.

TomLC Colleges and high school in some US states have banned the use of pronouns. ‘Hi guys”. No no. Say “Hi people”.

There is a wonderful book by Andrew Doyle "Free Speech and why it matters". It dwells a lot into things like hate speech vs freedom of speech and identity policies. I couldn't believe the extend of the issue TBH.

Free Speech And Why It Matters by Andrew Doyle (goodreads.com)