(Yet another) smartphone battle

Khuja Wangtishvili

I use proper phone -> Android 😃

CyberGene

I haven't heard of such a phone called "Android", can you elaborate more? 😉

Khuja Wangtishvili

CyberGene
Oh yes. Sam-sung.
Xi-oami

My favourites 😉

CyberGene

I also like the Xiaomi brand and have many of their products. If I didn’t use iPhone already I would probably get a Xiaomi phone. But Samsung? 🤣 They are cheaters!

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moon-photos-ai-galaxy-s21-s23-ultra

kawafanboi

CyberGene

Samsung also secretly taken screenshots of people's tvs and sent it to their servers in korea for "analysis"

Vizio (brand ) also did that.

Pete14

I love to hate the iPhone (Apple)!

On the one hand I hate what Cook has done with Apple (had Jobs been alive, and I assure you we would’ve never seen that hideous ‘notch’), but on the other hand, I’m just too accustomed to iOS & Siri, and whilst I know that “Android” is similar in functionality, layout, etc.. I’m just not in the mood to switch.

CyberGene

Pete14 this! (Or shouldn’t I say “that”? I can’t get used to when I should say this and that in English… 😳)

Khuja Wangtishvili

Pete14 android is much better in utilitt... still two years ago there were things which were normal on PC and android but impossible on iphones

And I don't get that notch discussion. Whats the artifical issue with it?

danno858

CyberGene It's okay - native English speakers also have a hard time with when to use "which" or "that"….

CyberGene

Khuja Wangtishvili android is much better in utilitt...

What utilities are missing on the iPhone? Many business apps are available only for iOS and then for audio I'd say 99% of the apps and plugins are iOS only. Have you seen a musician playing with an Android phone or tablet? Just go to the Keyboard Corner forum and see how many professional musicians use iPad-s live on stage. The iOS has better audio architecture and especially the application runtime is better on the iOS compared to the Java environment on the Android. Let's not start on how much better the hardware on the Apple devices is compared to any Android device. Also, the OS is stable. I understand people don't like Apple and might prefer an alternative or just need some cheap Chinese smartphone. But saying there are not "utilities" on iOS, it's the first time I hear such an argument.

Pete14

danno858 It's okay - native English speakers also have a hard time with when to use "which" or "that"….

What about “they” or “them”? that/those one(s) really get(s) me all the time!🤣

danno858

Pete14 don't get me started…

Khuja Wangtishvili

CyberGene
I had ipad4 for a few years until it just stopped working one day.. and it was actually missing a lot of small things that each normal phone already had from years. Forums are full of such stories that apple in 2022 was doing things that were normal things in android in 2010.

Yes it may be better for audio solutions, but overall I am not missing it. It was even impossible in 2015 to add two pdf files into email in its native app..
Oh, and try to save some files in ipad memory 😃

CyberGene

Khuja Wangtishvili Oh, and try to save some files in ipad memory

I save PDF files all the time on my iPhone. They go in the Downloads folder which is part of the Files application which in turn is synced to iCloud and I have them automatically go to my Mac too. I actually find this one of the best aspects of the entire Apple ecosystem since they make both desktop and mobile hardware and software, as well as provide a unified cloud solution which is also available for the entire family. While Google provides some similar functionality, they don't have a desktop OS (at least not a popular one, Chrome OS is not very popular IMO) and don't make hardware.

Don't get me wrong, Apple have their limitations and stuff that is ridiculous and I often criticize and even hate them but then the same can be said about any OS and phone/computer. I remember some years ago I was angry about some minor thing with my iPhone and purchased a mid-level Xiaomi phone. Well, it was OK and better in some areas but so much worse in others...

I think all modern smartphones are very much alike. Extreme opinions and likes/dislikes are more for fun threads like this one and for radical fanboys 😉

Khuja Wangtishvili

CyberGene
Yes they made file saving possible in 2022 or so. Something that possible even on android less nokias lol.

Also, I hate them because due them being extremely greedy they got rid mini jack, only in order to sell useless bt phones. Try to use them for 6 hours in a plane. Mbehehehe.
And the worst thing about it that all you need is a small hole inside the phone and make another path on PCB to drive signal to jack input. Instead those idiots are claiming that their phones have Dolby Atmos and hi-end xlean sounding stereo speakers, that's completely crazy.

Unfortunately others went also in this route, therefore I am still Samsung S10e and see no other phone to replace it with.

Also comparing mid-range Xiaomi from few years ago vs iPhone is not good. To have proper comparison you should have compare Samsung Galaxy or similar, or Mi phone (so Xiaomi top series) - so phones which are similar in performance. Midrange Xiaomi Costs 250, iPhone costs 1200. Iphone 14 Pro costs almost 2000, which is nothing more than rip off from its customers. But you can get new Mi14 for 800-1000 and this you can compare with Iphone14.

David B

I have an old iPhone 6s that I use for talk/text/bluetooth music/GPS/recording video.

I almost never use it for internet browsing.

God Bless,
David

MacMacMac

Khuja Wangtishvili I hate them because due them being extremely greedy they got rid mini jack,

I still have the 6s ... so I have the phone jack. But my wife has the 12. No phone jack. Still ... there's a cheap Chinese adapter for that ... just a couple bucks. (Or buy Apple's adapter ... for "only" $179.95 !) 😀

Nonetheless I like the Iphone. But I hate Apple.

OTOH ... this BS where you have to use Itunes to transfer music to the phone ... that's lame. With my old (extremely) dumb LG Cosmos I could plug it into any PC and it would look just like a thumb drive. Click drag. That's all it takes to put music on the phone.

I imagine it's similar on any Android.

But on an Iphone? No! That would be much to user friendly!

kawafanboi

Khuja Wangtishvili

the difference between xiaomi and apple, is really just a choice of who you trust your digital footprint with the NSA or the CCCP.

pick your poison. 😘

scherbakov.al

a very strange situation: for the iPhone there is a huge variety of absolutely amazing programs for working with sound (I have seen various ones, they are really good), which Android does not have. But, the modern iPhone does not have an output for sound, but only bluetooth, which implies compression and has delays. ???. modern android smartphones often have a high-end sound chip with the ability to output audio formats up to 24/192 and with decent distortion characteristics. A modern iPhone simply does not have a physically sound output. Only wireless with dumb compression. But android does not have such high quality programs... you can just listen to the recording in good quality (for this you need a program that will detect the internal sound chip and feed sound data to it, bypassing the android system, which has a 24/48 limitation - from adequate I met only usb-player). As a result, one system cannot but could, and the other could, but cannot))) hihi.

П.с. The way out for the iPhone is to use older models. The way out for the android - write cool programs)

П.с.2 oh yes .. adapter ..

CyberGene

Yes, there’s the lightning to audio adapter. It’s $12 if I’m not mistaken. BTW, if you’re gonna use it professionally you may want an external interface anyway because stereo mini headphone jacks are not reliable. I have a Zoom U24 which is a pretty good mobile audio interface that works with the iPhone.

Johnstaf

Apple's "professional" software is a mess, and I couldn't care less about the Mac vs. PC debate, but I do prefer iOS to Android when it comes to phones.

danno858

MacMacMac the only way around this is to upload mp3 files to iCloud and then download to your phone in the FILES area. But you can only play them one at time. But you can send them to other people using text or email or messenger. They should untangle this now that they changed iTunes to apple music. I totally agree it sucks