HZPiano It played and sounded really, surprisingly lovely:
This grand sounds indeed very lovely and sweet. Beautiful, but out of my price range.
QuasiUnaFantasia Did you get to play a Pfeiffer? This brand is sort of "hidden away" from the rest of the world, but I have only ever heard good things about their piano's.
I never played a newer Pfeiffer from the 70s and younger. I am aware of their very good reputation. But I played an 140 cm (!) tall 100 year old Pfeiffer yesterday that had a really big and warm yet clear sound. I also liked it very much but it wasn't quite dynamic as the Försters.
Thank you for you valuable Input Khuja Wangtishvili
Your are right and my next experience really mirrors what you say.
eddiepiano Tomorrow I will play a used Feurich (Made in Langlau, W. Germany) upright that seems in good condition from photos sold by the first owner. I don't know the age and height, but might be a good deal for 700 € or less.
Wow! It may be that my journey will come to an abrupt end.
The Feurich is a West German made in Langlau piano with a height of 116 cm / 45,7 inch. It's from 1983. The Langlau pianos from Feurich have a high reputation among piano technicians and may rate them higher than comparable Schimmel, Grotrian-Steinweg or Sauter. The piano well looked after from first ownership. It has been barely played all these years. The last tuning was 5 years ago. In the base and middle it hold the tune very well, only in the highs they were some nasty tones.
The Renner Action played very well, but just a bit doughy. I think that's due to the the dampers releasing a bit too early and this can be regulated and fixed easily. The Hammers have just a little use and the soundboard has no cracks.
It had a clear and clean sound, powerful and dynamic especially for it's size. The highs were clear and singing, the middle and base warm and rich. It reminded me of the Försters yesterday and I liked it better than the other used pianos I tried.
The price is 700€ including the piano chair. I think this is a Nobrainer, especially compared to 3000-8000 € for much much older pianos.
With transport and tuning I will be over a 1000 €, with a really good regulation and intonation I might get a very good, rather young, great sounding and playing german upright in very good condition for just under 2000€. I think I will go for the Feurich. I think the only reason that it didn't sell yet for this price is that the private seller lives outside from Berlin and most people don't want to make that effort because there are so many dealers and used pianos in Berlin.
I also think that it's not necessary for a piano technician to check the piano due to it's age, quality and condition - see the photos. What do you think? It might be a hassle and expensive because it's a bit off from Berlin.
I also had the opportunity to test a Boston UP 132 from 2001 for 7300€ from a private seller after that and I didn't like it so much. The tone was rather uninspiring, dull and flat and you really had to put work and effort in it to make it barely sing.
Here is a 2cm taller (this difference just might be the rolls on a console model) Feurich from 1984 for an approximated sound impression: