My pianos *DEBUNKED*

Admit it, People!

You’ve been in love with Pianoteq all along, but your long-held beliefs prevented an admission; till Sofia showed you the way vis-a-vis the most elaborate experiment ever conducted upon a bunch of stubborn deniers!

My daddy used to say:

“little Pete, there is always something hidden behind denial, and sometimes it turns out that the most intense denial is an attempt at masking a carnal desire that so contradicts the person’s ingrained faith, that denying seems more palatable.”

Of course, I was a kid, and didn’t have a clue of what he was saying back then, but he had me write it down, and now, as I unearth this crumbled, old piece of paper, and recite it to thee, I realize how right my daddy was…..and whilst he didn’t love me much, he did teach me a few life lessons!

Pete14 “little Pete, there is always something hidden behind denial, and sometimes it turns out that the most intense denial is an attempt at masking a carnal desire that so contradicts the person’s ingrained faith, that denying seems more palatable.”

In the Christian experience carnal desires are good when indulged in the correct context. However, outside of the correct context they become sinful propensities. We learn how to overcome (with Divine power) the destructive characteristics of our sinful nature so that the body is slave to the mind and not the mind to the body. The same diligence must be applied to overcoming the corrupting influence of Pianoteq. 😎

God Bless,
David

navindra I'll even personally write Modartt and ask them to let you keep the sample libraries up or hire you.

Same thought crossed my mind yesterday (without the writing them part).

I haven't evaluated "Sofia"'s pianos for lack of time and because I'm reorganizing my piano setup at the moment so cannot play. But if "she" finally succeeded in making Pianoteq sound like… a proper piano -- a bunch of proper pianos even -- then surely Modartt should hire "her".

Cheers and happy career moves,

HZ

HZPiano But the "Sofia piano's" have the same distorted sound Pianoteq has, so there is no improvement. At least not from my perspective. I downloaded the original versions of all piano's, and they were all essentially unplayable for me because of the sound (however, the implicit velocity curve was excellent).

Now the BIG conspiracy theory… Modartt is behind this hoax!!! 🤣🤣🤣

navindra I was even starting to feel bad for dore_m... as I've been no help to his sampling quest

Same here exactly!

But as it turns out: @dore_m "rulez", just as before. As he knows, I do admire all his attempts, experiments, and hard work.

Cheers and keep up the good work,

HZ

Thx. The whole thing was disconcerting actually.

dore_m

I've followed along with what now is "the prank" over the recent weeks, including reading stories and FAQ on "her" website. All that time, I never thought the "backstory" was similar to yours.

Your efforts span quite some time already and you're happy to take us along on any detail and aspect of your efforts and adventures. You are obviously "the real deal'.

I didn't want to judge too soon, for I love to believe in possibilities and in people being highly committed and accomplishing incredible things. But while reading "Sofia"'s beautifully crafted and written website, trying to visualize all steps and aspects described there in a practical and logistical context, putting them on a timeline, I started to wonder a thing or two.

That is not to say I outright smelled the hoax, but my attention did change to a "well, we'll see where this one goes".

Cheers and keep it up,

HZ

QuasiUnaFantasia

Yes, puzzling things remain open for sure.

I've been thinking that the greatest, loudest, thunderous laugh would be if the prank actually turns out to be… that "Sofia" and "her" pianos are real and declaring them a hoax is… the prank.

But by now I don't seriously believe any of that, in particular because the website and such have been taken down rapidly.

Cheers and enjoy the (British? 🙂) mysteries,

HZ

Would you people stop it already with the whole “contacting” Modartt attempting to “help;”because you’re just gonna stir up the hornets’ nest….

….unless, that is, your true intention is to shut Sofia down!

As what happened yesterday; just when I was about to ask Sofia to “keep it going” over at PW, someone serendipitously pointed out the “hoax;” therefore, taking all the fun out of it!

I ask, do you stubborn people ever let your hair down, and just let it rip for a bit?

Jesus, what a stubborn bunch!😆

QuasiUnaFantasia

Indeed, that was what my "if" was about.

I had no means (time/piano) to evaluate the pianos myself so could only go on the enthusiastic responses of others.

Cheers and happy status quo*),

HZ

*) Pianoteq opinion chasm unchanged, as it appears

If we sit down and analyze this whole debacle calmly at some point, there will be several lessons in it. One clearly is that many people are willing to suspend their own good judgement out of good will towards a newcomer. Another is that crooks exist for real. A third one is that the sfz format has broad appeal.

QuasiUnaFantasia

Easy to say…….in retrospect!

But I wonder, why didn’t you point that out before the box, Pandora’s that is, was opened!?

I never heard you, or anyone else, come even close to saying ‘that sounds synthetic, you know, like Pianoteq.’

But of course, in retrospect, now you all had it figured out from the beginning, but simply didn’t have the time to point it out……BS, I say!

You were all had, but, in retrospect, perhaps that is too difficult to admit!

“I knew it all along, I say!”🤣

Pete14 But I wonder, why didn’t you point that out before the box, Pandora’s that is, was opened!?

One the one hand I did not want to shoot "Sofia" down by saying that I didn't like "her" piano's. On the other hand, I had not made the connection to Pianoteq; I believed "her" story.

Interesting, how you didn’t want “to shoot Sofia down,” but I wonder, had Sofia been Roberto instead, if you’d have no problem shooting Roberto down!

If so, I call this reverse-sexism; you all went along with Sofia so as to not hurt “her” sensitive constitution, yet had it been Roberto, and y’all would’ve had no problem taking that authoritarian bully down…

“How dare you, Roberto, show up in here with a bunch of used samples!”

Or, it could also be that some of y’all wanted to get into Sofia’s pants, or should I say skirt?

You see, the experiment continues to baffle, shake, and alter the status quo; genius, I say!

And if it turns out that this was indeed the creation of a 16-year-old, I declare him a prodigy!

Pete14 No that allegation is not true.

And whatever the age of the person (or more likely, persons) behind the scam, I declare him//it/her/they crook(s).

dore_m

Pianoteq is a modelling synth, so I don't know what source samples you think have been repackaged. A sound was made with a synth, recorded and distributed. That's what synths are for, so you should stop calling it illegal and people should stop trying to get the synth creator to take legal action against them.

I never said that pianoteq source samples were copied. I said that I would be upset if someone redistributed MY samples without a license. True, Pianoteq is modeled and, like a synth, might be considered fair game. Except the user license strictly forbids making sample libraries from it.

Jose EB5AGV Now the BIG conspiracy theory… Modartt is behind this hoax!!!

So, yet another half-baked product from them then... 😀

Yes, the samples are not copies of internal data from Pianoteq since this instrument is modelled. However, running Pianoteq implies a copy (from disk to RAM), then it is forbidden excepted in the limits of a licence… and this licence forbids running Pianoteq in the aim to build a sound library. (We can see many fancy licences : number of processors, amount of used RAM…)