Pianoteq competition

Del Vento

Here it is again:

https://forum.modartt.com/viewtopic.php?id=8855

Has any of you ever participated? Let me point out two facts from the rules:

You are allowed to use other instruments or voices alongside Pianoteq if you want (e.g. Garritan 😀)
You are not requested to show that Pianoteq is better, so you could even show it being worse 🤣

burkey

Were the past top entries usually of the classical/romantic/baroque periods/genres - or as my wife affectionately refers to them: 'dead mans' music'?!

Or will something more modern like Ben Folds or Elton John be a reasonable contender?

I do find it rather amusing that they want it published on YouTube… which compresses all audio down to ludicrously crappy 128kbps. So much for high fidelity Pianoteq! 😀

Ralphiano

If anything could accelerate MacMacMac's purchase of his new piano, this would be it:

"You are not requested to show that Pianoteq is better, so you could even show it being worse"

😆

David B

Here is a comparison I did last year between VI Labs Modern U upright and Pianoteq's U4 upright. I think the Modern U wins.

https://youtu.be/MX0OZI9SJ4s

God Bless,
David

Irmin

Nice playing: Maybe it is the reverb, but the Modern U sounds a bit muddy. Pianoteq as usual sounds a bit weaker in the mid-range C4 to C5. Overall difficult to pick a winner

CyberGene

Pianoteq has this typical rubbery feeling to it, I don't know how to describe it better. It's like the spectral content doesn't evolve in the natural way you would expect from a piano linearly. More like a synth.

Del Vento

burkey Or will something more modern like Ben Folds or Elton John be a reasonable contender?

Youtube requires you have secured the copyright for posting it, so good luck with that. The new AI-based youtube algorithm will find you and bite you very hard. Heck it has bitten even the Duo Matschulat (search them in youtube) playing their own arrangements of Bach! But if you can secure the copyright, you can play whatever you want.

burkey I do find it rather amusing that they want it published on YouTube… which compresses all audio down to ludicrously crappy 128kbps. So much for high fidelity Pianoteq!

😆

CyberGene Pianoteq has this typical rubbery feeling to it, I don't know how to describe it better. It's like the spectral content doesn't evolve in the natural way you would expect from a piano linearly. More like a synth.

I can tell that I don't love it, but I have always troubles to find the right words. Will think of these next time (before it was the "nasal") and see if it applies. But note that the thread is about the competition, not the "is Pianoteq any good" 😀

burkey

Del Vento their own arrangements of Bach

J.S. Bach is still under copyright?!

In the literature world you get only about 100 years after the author dies… it should really be in the same for music.

Del Vento

burkey delvento their own arrangements of Bach

J.S. Bach is still under copyright?!

In the literature world you get only about 100 years after the author dies… it should really be in the same for music.

Of course it's not. But somebody with big name registered it for YouTube and good luck arguing that. Of course if they'd sue you, you can strip them to their underpants, but for this they remove your video not bring you to court. And perhaps delete your channel/account. All automatically with AI. Good luck finding a person to argue your case. So you are forced to do what they ask. In the case of the Duo, they asked to get royalities for the views (which most of us won't care anyway), but different copyright "owners" may have different requests, including removing the video completely. ☹️

arc

burkey As @Del Vento said this is not about the actual copyright but derivate copyrights and other rights. International copyright laws usually grant protection for 70 years after the death of the author. Some publications, including music, can be further protected, with copyrights lasting 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation. However, recordings of an uncopyrighted piece are often copyrighted. The same happens with uncopyrighted music used in massively copyrighted movies, trailers, ads, or similar material that is published in YouTube. So, you may end up in trouble if your video containing uncopyrighted material is flagged and taken down because it matches the uncopyrighted material used in a copyrighted clip owned by a big corporation…